thanks for the info,but the stuff iwill be using before the undercoating and also my primer is Valspar DTM 2K primer,this is great stuff.Its a sealer,unlike most primers and is DTM direct to metal.I got some where i shouldnt have and couldnt even weld thru it with my MIg,It really seals the car.It will be used on the whoile vehicle prior to paint.It ELiminates a step and also is a sandable filler as well as being DTM and a sealer.The paint shop igot it from said they are seing everyone eventually switching to this primer totally.