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    Offline FY1 RT SE

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    Re: 1970 Challenger Grill - Restoring, Correct Paint & Color Tips
    « Reply #15 on: August 02, 2005 - 05:34:36 PM »
    Original T/A - R/T grill and some blackout.
    « Last Edit: August 02, 2005 - 05:36:28 PM by FY1 RT SE »
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    Re: 1970 Challenger Grill - Restoring, Correct Paint & Color Tips
    « Reply #16 on: August 02, 2005 - 05:49:30 PM »
    Great shots - thank you :thumbs:
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    Re: 1970 Challenger Grill - Restoring, Correct Paint & Color Tips
    « Reply #17 on: August 02, 2005 - 05:53:38 PM »
    And when you see it gather all the factory documentation that you can.  While the dates may not fall into the time frame of your car, you will at least see what the engineers/designers were thinking at the time.

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    Offline Carlwalski

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    Re: 1970 Challenger Grill - Restoring, Correct Paint & Color Tips
    « Reply #18 on: August 02, 2005 - 08:14:11 PM »

    Great info and thread guys keep it going.  :thumbs:


    As for the black out rad most of the high impact cars had it blacked out. I don't/didn't care if it was correct or not it looks f#ckn stupid with the rad support shining through takes away from the 70 Challengers best feature. Mine is blacked out and I know it will help immensley.

    Still not 100% set on keeping the egg crate bare metal.
    IMO it looks better 10x better black, and most people can't tell once hiden under there espeacially with the rad support blacked out.  :thumbs:


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    Offline FY1 RT SE

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    Re: 1970 Challenger Grill - Restoring, Correct Paint & Color Tips
    « Reply #19 on: August 02, 2005 - 09:57:41 PM »
    Quote from: NZ440R/T on August 02, 2005 - 08:14:11 PM
    Great info and thread guys keep it going.  :thumbs:


    As for the black out rad most of the high impact cars had it blacked out. I don't/didn't care if it was correct or not it looks f#ckn stupid with the rad support shining through takes away from the 70 Challengers best feature. Mine is blacked out and I know it will help immensley.

    Still not 100% set on keeping the egg crate bare metal.
    IMO it looks better 10x better black, and most people can't tell once hiden under there espeacially with the rad support blacked out.  :thumbs:



    Being able to do what you want to do with your car is one of the great things about this hobby.  The fact that you found a car and put your hard work into it and made it the way you like is just great.  Do they have to look like they just came out of the factory?  No way.  Do you as the owner deserve to be satisfied with it and the hard work you put into it?  Most definitely.  :thumbs:
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    Offline Carlwalski

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    Re: 1970 Challenger Grill - Restoring, Correct Paint & Color Tips
    « Reply #20 on: August 02, 2005 - 10:40:08 PM »
     
    :iagree:  ;) But I do want to keep to as original condtion as possible.


    I've changed the following:

     - Converted from Column/Bench to Console/Bucket. (An original R/T with column and bucket seats)
     - Changed from B5-Blue to Bright White (When I got the car it was Alpine someone painted it in the 80's so I kept it that way).
     - Removed the Vinyl top and bodyside moldings (Have purchased new vinyl top and good condition moldings, now in storage).
     - Viscus Fan package.
     - MoPar Electronic Distributor Upgrade.
     - tti headers/exhuast and Borla Muffler system.
     - New Headunit from Pioneer along with rear speakers 650watts each.
     - HARMS Tilt Pistol-Grip Shifter for Slap-Stik.

    Thats bascially it apart from some body work for a driver eg: insulation/rubber compound exterior finish underneath it's original parts.
    I have kept all original parts in storage. The car itself is still 100% numbers matching, just not 100% correct.  ;D :laughing:


    Hmmmmm, have to think about the grill.  :coffee:



    Cheers  :thumbs:
    « Last Edit: August 02, 2005 - 10:41:45 PM by NZ440R/T »
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    Offline Carlwalski

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    Re: 1970 Challenger Grill - Restoring, Correct Paint & Color Tips
    « Reply #21 on: August 03, 2005 - 02:34:37 AM »

    FY1 - You know the egg crate. What is the outside edge color? In photos it looks chrome?
    If it is chrome how do you remove it from the egg crate main area to chrome it? Can it be done?

    Or is the WHOLE egg crate bare metal? I am going bare metal, it's correct and in the photos I have been studiing off #'s cars on Google look black but when they pop the hood the grill is bare metal meaning only one thing. The grill appears black due to the shadow of the hood.


    Thanks for you time and sorry about the questions.  :newsad:
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    Offline FY1 RT SE

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    Re: 1970 Challenger Grill - Restoring, Correct Paint & Color Tips
    « Reply #22 on: August 03, 2005 - 03:18:34 AM »
    The part that surrounds the eggcrate is stainless steel.  The "Bright Metal" were the rivets are is Bright Dipped Aluminum, actually the entire grill except for the eggcrate is bright dipped.
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    Offline Carlwalski

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    Re: 1970 Challenger Grill - Restoring, Correct Paint & Color Tips
    « Reply #23 on: August 03, 2005 - 07:58:07 AM »
    Quote from: FY1 RT SE on August 03, 2005 - 03:18:34 AM
    The part that surrounds the eggcrate is stainless steel. 
    The "Bright Metal" were the rivets are is Bright Dipped Aluminum, actually the entire grill except for the eggcrate is bright dipped.


    Thanks.  ;) How do you dip the grill for bright metal and not cover the egg crate? Or hopefully it comes apart?  :-\ :(


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    Offline AllGreen70RT

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    Re: 1970 Challenger Grill - Restoring, Correct Paint & Color Tips
    « Reply #24 on: August 03, 2005 - 10:43:53 AM »
    Quote from: FY1 RT SE on August 02, 2005 - 05:12:11 PM
    The eggcrate section is new. 

    Who is reproducing the eggcrate?
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    Offline FY1 RT SE

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    Re: 1970 Challenger Grill - Restoring, Correct Paint & Color Tips
    « Reply #25 on: August 03, 2005 - 03:14:26 PM »
    Any large electrical supply house should have it.  Same grill product they cover fluorescent lights with in elevators.  They make different sizes and thickness so you have to match it up.

    The grill originally came from the factory bright dipped.  To refinish the grill needs to be stripped of paint and the dip finish and then polished and re-dipped.  Bright dip is different that anodizing.
    « Last Edit: August 03, 2005 - 03:28:19 PM by FY1 RT SE »
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    Offline Carlwalski

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    Re: 1970 Challenger Grill - Restoring, Correct Paint & Color Tips
    « Reply #26 on: August 03, 2005 - 03:24:32 PM »

    So the egg crate can obviously be removed to chrome the surrounding edge?  ;)
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    Re: 1970 Challenger Grill - Restoring, Correct Paint & Color Tips
    « Reply #27 on: August 03, 2005 - 03:30:55 PM »
    Yes the center section can be removed.  You have to drill the rivets out.

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    Offline Carlwalski

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    Re: 1970 Challenger Grill - Restoring, Correct Paint & Color Tips
    « Reply #28 on: August 03, 2005 - 03:51:18 PM »
    Quote from: FY1 RT SE on August 03, 2005 - 03:30:55 PM
    Yes the center section can be removed.  You have to drill the rivets out.



    Awesome and just to double check the outer edge is chrome?
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    Re: 1970 Challenger Grill - Restoring, Correct Paint & Color Tips
    « Reply #29 on: August 03, 2005 - 04:10:54 PM »
    The "surround" of the eggcrate is stainless steel, no chrome anywhere on the grill.
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