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Offline michaelphbarnett

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Re: How do you guys feel about clones?
« Reply #255 on: May 16, 2014 - 11:44:52 PM »
That's it alright.
Thanks for the picture.

I remember it very well.
It was the first time I had ever seen the front spoilers on a Cuda'.

If you want to email Randy his email is sirhemi@hotmail.com . You were saying he was a cloning pioneer, well I think he got the idea from me. He had a fake '70 Hemicuda  hardtop and a fake '71 'Cuda 440+6 Convertible. I had a '70 'Cuda 340 with a 426 Hemi in it and a '70 Barracuda Convertible 318. I told him I was going to switch the drivetrains, steering, suspension and brakes between my cars and make a fake '70 Hemicuda Convertible. He finished his fake  before I finished mine.

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Re: How do you guys feel about clones?
« Reply #256 on: May 17, 2014 - 12:15:06 AM »
Very interesting.
What Mopars do you have now?
Are you still restoring them?

What has happened over all these years and now you are here?
Mike, Fremont, CA.


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Re: How do you guys feel about clones?
« Reply #257 on: May 17, 2014 - 12:45:45 PM »
Very interesting.
What Mopars do you have now?
Are you still restoring them?

What has happened over all these years and now you are here?
I still have the fake '70 Hemicuda Convertible. I also have a '88 Dodge Ramcharger AW100 that my father and I ordered new. I also have a '98 Dodge Ram 3500 V10 Quad Cab Long Bed 4x4. There's pictures of my Ramcharger on another web page that can be reached from the 'Cuda pictures web page.

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Re: How do you guys feel about clones?
« Reply #258 on: May 17, 2014 - 03:35:17 PM »
If you want to email Randy his email is sirhemi@hotmail.com . You were saying he was a cloning pioneer, well I think he got the idea from me. He had a fake '70 Hemicuda  hardtop and a fake '71 'Cuda 440+6 Convertible. I had a '70 'Cuda 340 with a 426 Hemi in it and a '70 Barracuda Convertible 318. I told him I was going to switch the drivetrains, steering, suspension and brakes between my cars and make a fake '70 Hemicuda Convertible. He finished his fake  before I finished mine.

Web page with pictures of my fake '70 Hemicuda Convertible


"Clone Wars" ... I love it!

Do tell about those early clone "pioneering" days ...  :popcorn:
Cheers!
Tom
St Louis, MO

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Re: How do you guys feel about clones?
« Reply #259 on: May 17, 2014 - 03:54:17 PM »
I was one of the first people to have a "clone" featured in a couple of National magazines back in the early 90's. By clone I mean a car that looks completely stock but the VIN number.

Mine was a 1971 440+6 Cuda convertible....I had correct details like a factory dual point distributor etc....I remember one magazine saying it was "more correct then most original cars" at the time.....always got a kick out of that...

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Re: How do you guys feel about clones?
« Reply #260 on: May 19, 2014 - 12:18:16 PM »
I "cloned" before "cloning" was ever an issue (1978 finished my T/A)... I can drive my car any where/any time, race it (collect lots of trophies!), show it (collect trophies), ... anywhere I go with it (driven or trailered) it gets tons of attention.   The purists let their car sit and collect dust (ok, typically under a cover, mine, too is under cover when not in-use)... afraid to drive or race it...  what a waste of $$ for them... and not truly enjoying the car for what it was intended for... FUN!
Autocross/road racers go in deeper... and come out harder!

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Re: How do you guys feel about clones?
« Reply #261 on: July 01, 2014 - 03:59:45 PM »
Clones are false advertising. Your saying you have something special but really it's a fake LIE.  :horse:

Then again these people most likely own a fake Rolex also.  :poopoke:
 
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Re: How do you guys feel about clones?
« Reply #262 on: July 01, 2014 - 06:15:52 PM »
Then again these people most likely own a fake Rolex also.  :poopoke:

That reminds me of a funny incident that occured to me back in the 90's. I was in the Itaewon district of Seoul South Korea when a Korean street vendor asked me if I was interested in buying a "genuine imitation Rolex". Struck me as funny that he referred to his imitation knockoff watch as "genuine" :rofl:
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Re: How do you guys feel about clones?
« Reply #263 on: July 01, 2014 - 07:20:56 PM »
Clones are false advertising. Your saying you have something special but really it's a fake LIE.  :horse:

The way you said that sounded like it was meant for ALL clone owners.
I believe your thinking is wrong for the honest people.
If you advertise it as a clone, then it's not false or Lying.
Yep, you have your crooks. But you also have the honest people that will own up to what's true or not.
So why not say, the crooks are false advertising and lying. Not the clones.
The clones didn't lye. The crooks selling them did.

I'm an owner of 2 clone Cudas and I am proud to have those Cudas to the way "I" want them. And if I ever have to sell them, they will be advertised as clones. But the VIN will verify that either way.
1971 Cuda Vert 440-833 - (clone)
1971 Cuda 440-727 - (clone)


Because I like it fast!!!

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Re: How do you guys feel about clones?
« Reply #264 on: July 01, 2014 - 07:24:50 PM »
One more thing.
Is a fake lie actually the truth???  :smilielol:
I mean a real lie is real. But a fake lie must be the truth  :bigsmile:

Being a clone owner, I hope I wasn't labeled a lier in your previous statement.   :wave:
1971 Cuda Vert 440-833 - (clone)
1971 Cuda 440-727 - (clone)


Because I like it fast!!!

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Re: How do you guys feel about clones?
« Reply #265 on: July 02, 2014 - 02:37:23 AM »
One more thing.
Is a fake lie actually the truth???  :smilielol:
I mean a real lie is real. But a fake lie must be the truth  :bigsmile:

Being a clone owner, I hope I wasn't labeled a lier in your previous statement.   :wave:

Ok, let's stir the pot
Clone owners should have to put a big decal on the side of their cars that say "CLONE - I was not born as the real thing". Lets see how many people would look at their car now. :stirpot:

Example - breast implants Vs real  :smilielol:
1970 Challenger R/T 440

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Re: How do you guys feel about clones?
« Reply #266 on: July 02, 2014 - 03:12:55 AM »
I don't mind them and a big decal not necessary.  Most folks are honest and every owner should have want they want.  When it comes time to sell, its up to the integrity of the owner to disclose.  But as said, the VIN will tell the truth unless it was switched, which is fraud. 

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Re: How do you guys feel about clones?
« Reply #267 on: July 02, 2014 - 07:01:17 AM »
Clone owners should have to put a big decal on the side of their cars that say "CLONE - I was not born as the real thing". Lets see how many people would look at their car now. :stirpot:

Example - breast implants Vs real   :smilielol:

Actually, you are way off... again.  :bigsmile:
A woman will get MORE looks with breast implants. No decal needed. Same with clones.
1971 Cuda Vert 440-833 - (clone)
1971 Cuda 440-727 - (clone)


Because I like it fast!!!

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Re: How do you guys feel about clones?
« Reply #268 on: July 02, 2014 - 11:05:32 AM »
I like "clones", but to me it's more fun to take it a step farther and go resto-mod.  Great fun and there is nothing fake about it.   :2cents:

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Re: How do you guys feel about clones?
« Reply #269 on: July 02, 2014 - 11:19:20 AM »
I like "clones", but to me it's more fun to take it a step farther and go resto-mod.  Great fun and there is nothing fake about it.   :2cents:
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1971 Cuda Vert 440-833 - (clone)
1971 Cuda 440-727 - (clone)


Because I like it fast!!!