Author Topic: How do you guys feel about clones? (Read 129956 times)

moparnut · « **Reply #75 on:** October 10, 2005 - 12:30:27 PM »

Quote from: Plum6Pak on October 07, 2005 - 07:09:13 AM

If I find a 318 Charger, Barracuda, Challenger, Satellite or others, it's not staying 318 no matter how rare it is, that is unless I can sell it to make enough to build a better one. Earlier this year I had a one of 138 Coronet 361 2bbl 4 speed 2 dr hdtp buckets etc etc and it wasn't going to remain a 361 for long, it ended up getting traded but my point is, it wasn't a collectable to most people, clone it, hot rod it, do whatever gets your heart pounding, it's your car, do what ever you want to it! Shame on anyone else who puts you down for whatever you do to it unless you are trying to run a scam or trying to convince others it's an original numbers matchjing whatever. I have this low production numbers 70 383 Satellite that has matching numbers on everything. It's getting the 383 parked in the barn and stroker inserted, Satellite emblems going on the shelf, chrome trim going on the shelf, gas tank getting a fuel cell, column shift getting shelfed and getting a Cheetah reverse pattern shifter, hood is going in the barn and getting a fiberglass 6pak hood, weld in frame rails, etc etc etc. All original, numbers matching getting thrashed!! LOL Just making my point, itr's mine and it's gonna be a fun Mopar to be sure! BIHYW

The 318 cars arent that diesireable or collectable.TODAY!.What about 10-20 years from now?there wont be many left and they will be,so to me changing even a small block numbers car is mopar sacrilege ,Remember when a Hemi car wasnt desireable either?Not too long ago.A buddy that is an e-body restorer last year had a nice numbers matchng 340/4 sp cuda vert,he made a hemi cuda vert clone out of it.Its a major mopar sin since he did it just to make more money on the sell of the car,I would have left it a 340 cuda vert.

Chryco Psycho · « **Reply #76 on:** October 10, 2005 - 12:55:28 PM »

personally I love clones , you can take the car to a better level with the addition of 4 wheel disc brake , imporve handling & HP etc& have a car you can actually drive without feeling guilty about putting a lot of miles on it or god forbid if it was to get damaged it is fixable without distroying the originality of the car
Original cars have their place & shold be preserved but clones will always have value when built properly & are more fun overall

Chryco Psycho · « **Reply #77 on:** October 10, 2005 - 12:56:50 PM »

Awesome 71 GTX/ RR Jim

:thumbs:

hotrod98 · « **Reply #78 on:** October 10, 2005 - 01:01:45 PM »

Clones have no value? �That's strange...I've been offered big bucks for both of my clones. Back when my gran coupe was stock and unrestored, people turned their noses up at it. It was in a word...ugly. I brought it to the dealership to restore and was promptly told that I was insane. Now it's one of the best looking cars around this area, at least according to the car show judges. It wins almost every car show around. Don't think that flat hooded 318 GC would have won many shows. There's a beautiful low mileage perfect 74 318 matching numbers yellow cuda here in town and I whoop him at every show. He doesn't even bring it out anymore. He's tired of gettin thumped by a worthless clone. I hate that because I like his car. � My only problem now is my wife's whoopin me with her 73 lime clone. Go figure, my 71 getting beat by a 73. Kind of cool I think. Means we did our homework. I'll take my two clones over your original cuda any day of the week. I sold an original N96 71 hemi orange cuda to build these two cars and I'm glad that I did.

Now wait until my hemi daytona and my wife's 6-barrel superbird clone are finished. They will be nicer than any of the originals ever thought about being. Of course according to some they will be worthless. I own 12 mopars and I love them all, even my four clones.

71GTX · « **Reply #79 on:** October 10, 2005 - 01:36:26 PM »

I am a firm believer in clones! I just dont believe in decieving persons about them! As a purist, I would have a rough time making my 70 383 4 speed Cuda into a Hemi car. I would much rather see someone or myself use a Barracuda or any type of base model for this type of modification to these style cars. To cut up a BS, JS, RS, RM, or whatever style car, to suit my performance desires not offered by Mopar is sacreligious, in my opinion. To that I thank Mopar for inadvertantly creating these "clones" thus allowing some of us to not carve up the original High Performance packaged cars! JMO!

hotrod98 · « **Reply #80 on:** October 10, 2005 - 01:45:23 PM »

Just remember that you can always put it back later. Just save the parts and go have fun. It's cheaper than trying to buy a real hemi car and besides, you would probably just park the other car anyway if you had a hemi to drive.

Carlwalski · « **Reply #81 on:** October 10, 2005 - 02:45:43 PM »

There is no way someone can confirm whether or not Clones are "more fun".
Clones have less risk of losing high values due to driving but can be driven exactly the same as a clone...more fun or not is up to the driver.

71GTX · « **Reply #82 on:** October 10, 2005 - 04:58:10 PM »

Quote from: NZ440R/T on October 10, 2005 - 02:45:43 PM

Clones have less risk of losing high values due to driving but can be driven exactly the same as a clone...more fun or not is up to the driver.

AMEN NZ, AMEN!

moparnut · « **Reply #83 on:** October 10, 2005 - 05:23:58 PM »

I do have to add that clones are cool if a non numbers car was used in the cloning process,chucking a 340 numbers car to make a big block or hemi car is wrong to me no matter how you slice it.If the restorer has a numbers car it should be saved and purchase another car(maybe minus engine tranny)and clone that

hemi71 · « **Reply #84 on:** October 10, 2005 - 06:02:32 PM »

Quote from: moparnut on October 10, 2005 - 05:23:58 PM

I do have to add that clones are cool if a non numbers car was used in the cloning process,chucking a 340 numbers car to make a big block or hemi car is wrong to me no matter how you slice it.If the restorer has a numbers car it should be saved and purchase another car(maybe minus engine tranny)and clone that

I agree totally! Excellent point.But in the end, it all does come down to that if it's someone's car, it's their call what they do with it.

moparnut · « **Reply #85 on:** October 10, 2005 - 07:28:34 PM »

Quote from: hemi71 on October 10, 2005 - 06:02:32 PM

I agree totally! Excellent point.But in the end, it all does come down to that if it's someone's car, it's their call what they do with it.

Agreed,If i were into verts I would definatly build hemi cuda vert clone,cause i could never buy an original(maybe I'll buy a delorean,travel back in time and buy a dozen or 2),unless the granny down the street has one in her garage and doesnt know what its worth,then i would probably sell it and buy 30 more b @ e bodies with the cash,then pay off my ranch,buy my mom a house and take a Vaca:+).And while I am a moparnut,I wont mortguage my ranch just to buy a car,i like to live under my means instead of over it,been there done that.There was a 70 challenger vert 383 plumb crazy numbers car at a local mopar show sunday for 30k,it was all there but needed to be restored,while i was drooling over it and could have bought it,It was more than i would spend on a pile of dirt,afterall thats what steel,rubber and glass really is in its basic form.If it was restored it probably would be in my shop right now.I cant see paying that much for a project,even though its Mucho desireable.And when i am called up yonder,God has a 1 of 1 Hemi cuda wating for me:)

OzCuda · « **Reply #86 on:** October 10, 2005 - 07:47:51 PM »

When I first got my Barracuda, I initially planned on keeping the 318 and restoring it to original but when I realised how much work was going to be involved in the resto and still not have the big block car I really wanted the choice became pretty easy. My brief is to keep the car as a Barracuda but basically build it as the car could have been if the original owner had had the foresight to order with me in mind! If it was an option that could have been ordered from factory for a 70 Barracuda then I'm pretty happy to put it on.

hotrod98 · « **Reply #87 on:** October 10, 2005 - 10:14:01 PM »

I'm finishing up a resto on my 70 chal vert. I bought it 10 years ago in pretty rough shape. It was originally a 318 3-speed, but the original motor was long gone. It now has a brand new crate hemi sitting next to it along with a new TCI 727. If I had restored it as a 318 3-speed, I gurantee you that it would have sat in the shop. Now it's going to be driven all of the time. I can't wait to get this one finished. I love driving clones.

whitesatinmopar · « **Reply #88 on:** October 11, 2005 - 08:12:32 AM »

Quote from: Chryco Psycho on October 10, 2005 - 12:56:50 PM

Awesome 71 GTX/ RR Jim� � � :thumbs:

Thanks CP, the pic is not the best,...........it's a 72 model. I've in the past refered to the car as a clone, I guess because that was the "catch phrase"? I run her build specs through a dymo software program and it says she should put out 475 hp and 530 # torque, all I can tell you it sounds mean as hell straight out of the headers and about a three mile drive leaves you asking, "huh? wata ya say?" lol

hemi71 · « **Reply #89 on:** October 11, 2005 - 03:15:36 PM »

Quote from: whitesatinmopar on October 11, 2005 - 08:12:32 AM

Thanks CP, the pic is not the best,...........it's a 72 model. I've in the past refered to the car as a clone, I guess because that was the "catch phrase"? I run her build specs through a dymo software program and it says she should put out 475 hp and 530 # torque, all I can tell you it sounds mean as hell straight out of the headers and about a three mile drive leaves you asking, "huh? wata ya say?" lol

Sounds like a great car, no matter what you want to call it!

I've found the 71-2 B bodies to be the tightest old mopars, very nice driving, well built cars.

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