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    Offline Hopalong

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    Re: What front end kit is best?
    « Reply #15 on: October 26, 2005 - 07:28:36 PM »
    Speaking of tie rods, has anyone seen or used these before.  They are kind of pricey, but they look good, and I would think they would be pretty strong, being solid.

     
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    Re: What front end kit is best?
    « Reply #16 on: October 26, 2005 - 07:32:20 PM »
    Sorry, I forgot to mention where they come from.  Pure Vision Designs (www.purevisiondesigns) makes them.  It's owned and operated by Steve Strope, the guy that did Dust'ya, and ChallengerX.  He is a real nice guy, I've talked to him on the phone about making some headers fit in an A body (same ones used in Dust'ya).  Real nice guy, but I don't recommend the headers.
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    Re: What front end kit is best?
    « Reply #17 on: October 26, 2005 - 09:38:42 PM »
    Quote from: Chryco Psycho on October 26, 2005 - 11:16:16 AM
    the lower bushings are relatively easy to change , the uppers need to be pressed out , it can be done in a vice  but i have broken 3 vices do this , the lowers need to be heated weith a propane torch , I use a pickle fork to pry the pin out of the bushing & then pry out the rubber insert laeving the bushings outer shell in place which is needed for the poly bushings   

    Wow, broken vises, those puppies are in there huh?  Guess I need to worry less about bending up the upper arms then.  Just so I have this straight, when you say "pin" are you referring to the lower CA shaft with the threaded end that goes into the bushing, that the lower CA pivots on, or am I missing some sort of smaller lock pin someplace?? 
    I was going to use my shop press to push that shaft out first...not a good move?

    So, only the rubber part of the lower bushing is to be removed? 
    The thick metal housing sleeve that the torsion bar slides into wobbles a bit in the arm, is this normal or should it be a real tight "bearing" fit?

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    Re: What front end kit is best?
    « Reply #18 on: October 26, 2005 - 09:49:03 PM »
    Quote from: FY1 RT SE on October 26, 2005 - 06:18:42 PM
    Using the correct tool makes it a snap to R&R, about 10 minutes of time.



    Thanks for the pics!

    I see, on the uppers you press out the old bushings, sleeves and all.  You just have to support the arm around the hole and press it inside to outside as a unit?

    The C-body ends and sleeves are a lot heavier duty but still the tapred ends are the same size as the E-body?
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    Re: What front end kit is best?
    « Reply #19 on: October 26, 2005 - 10:53:16 PM »
    yes the Pin is the threaded shaft that slides into the K frame , you may be able to press it out If you use a punch through the T bar socket
     the lower control arm is always loose on the T bar socket
     the upper bushings are done the way you descibe , push the whole piece out including the steel outer sleeve
     the C  body tie rod ends use the same size tapered pin through the spindle & Center link
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    Re: What front end kit is best?
    « Reply #20 on: October 26, 2005 - 11:03:05 PM »
    Excellent, thanks!

    Am I to assume that the T-bar socket and the lower arm will remain together, or will all the pieces separate after I remove the shaft and the bushing?
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    Re: What front end kit is best?
    « Reply #21 on: October 27, 2005 - 01:04:33 AM »
    Quote from: mrbill426 on October 26, 2005 - 11:03:05 PM
    Excellent, thanks!

    Am I to assume that the T-bar socket and the lower arm will remain together, or will all the pieces separate after I remove the shaft and the bushing?

    Personally, I always replace both pieces on the LCA, makes a huge difference in the handling and stability of the car. 
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    Re: What front end kit is best?
    « Reply #22 on: October 27, 2005 - 08:38:01 AM »
    FY1 RT SE, what "both pieces" do you mean?
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    Re: What front end kit is best?
    « Reply #23 on: October 27, 2005 - 09:22:23 AM »
    the T bar socket & LCA will stay together 
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    Re: What front end kit is best?
    « Reply #24 on: October 27, 2005 - 10:11:17 AM »
    Quote from: mrbill426 on October 27, 2005 - 08:38:01 AM
    FY1 RT SE, what "both pieces" do you mean?


    The LCA pivot shaft and the outer shell.  If you find a shop that works on the big RV's they can do them for you,  Tell them you want the outer shell pressed out not cut.
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    Re: What front end kit is best?
    « Reply #25 on: October 27, 2005 - 04:07:13 PM »
    Im going with the PST kit.
    http://www.p-s-t.com/mopar/mofekpgs.html

    Thanks for all the input everyone. Very usefull in my choice.

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    Re: What front end kit is best?
    « Reply #26 on: October 28, 2005 - 10:06:58 AM »
    if you press the outer shell out you cannot use the poly bushings
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    Re: What front end kit is best?
    « Reply #27 on: October 28, 2005 - 10:37:50 AM »
    Quote from: Chryco Psycho on October 28, 2005 - 10:06:58 AM
    if you press the outer shell out you cannot use the poly bushings

    This is the lower bushing, right?  So if I will use poly bushings there I just push the "rubber" out?

    I hope they make a poly kit that just has the "ploy" parts in it, I don't need ball joints or any other non-poly parts from them, I prefer to get those locally.  I have seen the complete front end kits, but I don't what all that extra non-poly stuff at their prices.  Maybe that's expecting too much, or is too easy  ;o)  I have not checked Summit yet, perhaps they have broken things down a bit.

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    Re: What front end kit is best?
    « Reply #28 on: October 28, 2005 - 10:47:50 AM »
    Energy has the poly kit with no BJ or tie rods etc
     yes just pry the old rubber bushing out of the lower bushing & leave the shell if you are using poly bushings
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    Re: What front end kit is best?
    « Reply #29 on: October 28, 2005 - 11:13:31 AM »
    Quote from: Hopalong on October 26, 2005 - 07:28:36 PM
    Speaking of tie rods, has anyone seen or used these before.  They are kind of pricey, but they look good, and I would think they would be pretty strong, being solid.

     

    I've bought something similar to those to use on my car.  Mine are 1" solid tubes with threaded ends to accept the larger 11/16" tie rod ends.


    Oh and Purple1, if you really want to stiffen up the suspension, order a set of those lower control arm stiffening plates.  I bought a set and have yet to install them, but they definitely look like they'll beef them up like no other. :D
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