New Challenger - post here any "Encouraging Letters" you send out

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"There isn't a day that goes by, that when I drive my 1970 R/T Dodge Challenger around town, people shout, whistle, and scream in enthusiam.  Cars do U-turns and pull into whatever parking lot I'm in.. and the job of fueling up is always fun because people gather round kind of in awe.  Thats the kind of pulse that it looks like Chrysler is going to tap into with this new Challenger! In addition to the nice illustration shown in this article-  I've seen some spy photo's and the designers are RIGHT ON!  The design is very close to creating the same feeling mix of power and elegance.  If they dont change this prototype like they did with Charger-  it will be a screaming success!"

I just sent that to the Detroit News Auto Insider.




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Re: New Challenger - post here any "Encouraging Letters" you send out
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2005 - 08:08:51 AM »
Getting the positive input to DCX about the new Challenger will be very important in their decision of WHETHER to produce the car and HOW it will look... Sooooo, write soon, write often... offer genuine input but understand the car will likely not look EXACTLY like you wish for.  So, comments like "I will only buy the car if you put in a 1970 styled grille in it" are not constructive...!

So... what are you waiting for... get to it!  When the high resolution pictures come out in January, write again... call... talk to your local dealer... get the word out with you friends... tell strangers... :) :) :) ;)

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Re: New Challenger - post here any "Encouraging Letters" you send out
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2005 - 09:03:44 AM »
Ok, you asked for it.  Sorry in advance for the long post.

This is a letter I sent to DCs Outside Suggestion Office earlier in the year to put in my 2 cents (Maybe more than 2 cents!) as to what I hope the potential 2009 Dodge Challenger would be like.

If you don't get your say in to them in the beginning stages, there's no use whining about it when it's on the showroom floor.

Let's not let this potential 2009 Dodge Challenger go by the way of the 1999 Dodge Charger Concept turned into 2006 Dodge Charger.




DaimlerChrysler Corporation
Outside Suggestion Office
CIMS: 483-02-07
800 Chrysler Drive East
Auburn Hills, MI 48326-2757




Dear Daimler Chrysler,
   It brings me great joy to hear of the rumor that DCX is planning to make a new Dodge Challenger for 2009.  Albeit several years from now, I can’t wait to see preliminary sketches.  It also send shivers down my back that in the same way that the Challenger was born in the late 60’/early 70’s to compete against Mustangs back then, the fiery phoenix rises to do the same in the near future.  I own a 1972 Dodge Challenger Rallye 340 and it brings tears to my eyes to see even a rumor of a Challenger coming back!  I would love to have a 2009 next to my 1972 in the driveway!
   Not all car buyers may view cars the same way I do or countless other thousands do.  We have a passion for cars.  It’s not just a matter of point A to point B, but it’s how you get there and the joy you have driving your car. 
   Not to criticize, but I hope the proposed Challenger doesn’t go by way of the new Charger.  Please don’t get me wrong.  The new Charger in and of itself is a great car and will sure to be a hit, but it’s not what a lot of people conceived as being a Charger.  Please excuse us for relating the nameplate to the icon from the 60’s and 70’s but that’s what Mopar fans did and many were disappointed to some degree.  For $30K, I don’t think that there will be another car that can touch it as far as performance and the amenities.  But, I’m sorry, it’s not what a lot of people expected, especially after seeing the 1999 prototype.  Now that was a head turner!  I realize that it’s not easy or even possible to turn a prototype into a production vehicle but the 1999 prototype was quite the tease.   It’s not even the four doors, but more so the styling.
   In the rumors that I’ve heard, the new Challenger is meant to compete against the new 2005 Mustang, correct?  If so, here’s my “wish list”:
-short wheel base
-long hood, short rear deck to fit “pony car” image.  Wide looking as original car, not tall looking!  Not huge looking like 2006 Charger.
-menacing look.  The new Charger front end has it down.  How’s it going to “challenge” with a sad puppy dog look?  Has to look like it’s up on its haunches.
-retro design?  Not sure.  Maybe some cues from the ’70 Challenger.  Or else all out retro, like 2005 Mustang.
-new design off  LX platform.  See Chris Horton design at: http://www.popularhotrodding.com/features/0404phr_dodge/index.html 
Awesome interpretation of 2006 Dodge Charger that could be used ideas for Challenger.

or
http://www.creatingthelie.com/    then click on “Automotive Design” then “Mopar” to see some nice images.

Hot Wheels, I think a year ago, had a lime green car (Sub-lime?) called “Rapid Transit”.  Did you guys have anything to do with this???  It’s another idea for styling cues.
-target weight of about 3500lbs (or less would be better, but maybe not realistic.).
-5 star safety crash test
-engine options as 2006 Charger, all with MDS
-RWD, with Sure Grip option.
-please, please, please: a manual transmission hooked up to a pistol grip shifter (optional) (Mustang has a manual!) and a DCX 5-speed automatic with “Slap Stick Shifter”. 
-please push all the “neato” names from the past!  Not just R/T, etc.  (Hemi, R/T/, Slap Stick, Sure Grip, Pistol Grip, all the cool color names, Rapid Transit System, Go-Wing, T/A, Magnum 500, Rallye, etc.) 
-Go all out as you did in 1970!!!  Recreate an image and driving experience.
-dual quad exhaust tips, as ’70-’74 Challengers with 340 and bigger engines.
-4 wheel disc brakes, optional higher performance/multiple piston design (Can you say Viper parts bin?)
-on that note, optional Viper rims!!! (Forget about the V-10.  That’s asking a bit much!!)
-5 passenger (5 sets of seat belts!) as was ’70-’74 Challengers.    I have 3 small kids!!!!  (On my ’72 Challenger, the sticker on the door jamb with the tire pressures states it’s a 5 passenger car but only has seatbelts for 4 people?  Why?)
-easy rear seat egress and ingress.  I need to unbuckle those 3 small kids from their car seats!!!  (Rear doors like the Mazda RX-8?)
-must have exhaust note to match the cars tenacity.
-cool color options as the past with associated cool names!  I see the new Daytona Chargers have that already started.  (My ’72 is code TB3=Super Blue.  Looks like Petty Blue.)
-priced at mid $20K area to be competitive with Mustang.  Make it affordable.  The new GTO is priced too high.  The new Charger is still a bit too high.  The average joe/jane has to be able to afford it.
-availability of “stripped down” model with Hemi available.  IE: cloth interior, no power seats, no navigation, etc. to lighten up the car and lower the cost but have full line of engines available, not just in the top of the line model.  Set it up as the “Rapid Transit Package” with fewer options to speed assembly and keep cost and weight down.  Look at the Lotus Elise.  It’s only a 4-cyl. but mighty fast!
-It’s not just the aging baby boomers that’ll buy this car.  If priced right and the image of the past is pushed, many younger people in there teens and twenties will be interested and see the car as “cool” as there is a resurgence of interest in the muscle cars of the past in younger folk, as you’re well aware of.  In my area (Belmont, MA) the muscle cars around here are driven by high school kids!
-it’s not a sin to mix old style with new ideas.  Look at the new 2005 Mustang.  I’m sure it’ll sell well.
-On June 19, 2005 I posted a Challenger wish list on the Autoweek.com site in the Combustion Chamber Forum under Future Sheetmetal.  Take a look for ideas and feedback.
   I have an old Challenger and grew up loving muscle cars.  With maturing and wisdom, I have come to favor Honda products for obvious reasons.  I had always worked on American cars until I worked for Acura of Boston in Massachusetts.  I immediately became familiar with Honda quality.  Build the new Challenger right and it will be my next car.  (My Hondas will last me until at least 2009!)
Thanks for your attention and consideration.
Sincerely,
   Philip XXX




Here's the pics I sent with the letter.







« Last Edit: November 21, 2005 - 01:09:18 PM by Super Blue 72 »
1972 Dodge Challenger Rallye 340, AT, Code TB3=Super Blue, SBD=8/17/1971.  Yes, a Rallye without the fender louvers from the factory because of the body side molding option.

Pic #2 and 3 of my ARII 1/24 scale model car 

Phil in New England-Massachusetts  Always thank God for what you have!

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/456046/1972-dodge-challenger

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Re: New Challenger - post here any "Encouraging Letters" you send out
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2005 - 10:07:00 AM »
Ok Im sending my two cents!..........................................


 Hello Daimler Chrysler,
   I have heard many stories of a new Challenger coming in the near future, but I like many others hope this goes down the right path! I was one that waited around for a new Charger to come into production, but after seeing the car in person, really turned me away from buying one!
 Don’t get me wrong.  I love the car but it just seams like a lot of other cars out there. I think if you do make the new Challenger you should really take the time to hear what the guys that have them think they should look like. We have been waiting a very long time for the Challenger to come back, so if it takes a little long to get the styling right it will be worth it! Take a look at the new GTO, The car looks just like a 2000 grand prix, and they wonder why there having a hard time selling the car! Not just a name sells the car! Gm has tried a larger engine and now there talking about dropping the car or restyling it! Look at the new Mustang, now as much as I dislike ford’s I wouldn’t mind having one! If you look at the new mustang next to the old, you need to take a double look! Now if you had a Challenger like that it would sell! I know me and a lot of others that own old challengers would buy a new one, but only if it looks some what like the old one! 
   I’m a member of a web board and this has been a topic that we have talked about many times! You guys should really stop by and hear what us owners have to say! After all we are the one that stuck by you guys all the way! Most of us have had are cars’ sense the 70's so I think our opinion matters! Stop by at www.cuda-challenger.com and talk to us owners!

Takes for your time,
Jesse Lee