Cool - thanks for that info. I wasnt sure if the metric equivalent was negligible difference or what. There are a few Ebay dealers that are selling them as 5-4.5" pattern. I questioned that when I saw it but assumed that the difference was only marginal. I photoshopped the wheels on my car and really like the look although the scale is not going to be correct. This is back-burner stuff and I know there is a lot more to consider besides looks. Am going to get more info.