'67 R/T 440, 4 spd, What's It Worth????

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Hey, I'm not super sharp on Mopars, but am looking at a '67 Dodge R/T - she's got a 440 and a 4 spd.  Engine is not original, but comes with the correct (not matching) block.  Car appears to have original blue paint and blue interior.  Needs a paint job, but the interior is in pretty damn good shape.  No evidence of wrecks and IT'S PRACTICALLY RUST FREE!  Found one spot underneath on the driver's side - where the fender attaches, I think, that's rusty.  Engine looks fresh and is supposed to be strong.  Has an 8 3/4 r/e.

Any ideas on the "market price" for something like this?  I'd like to buy it, but don't want to spend more than it's worth.

Thanks!

Scott



 

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[gomangoRT/SE]

Hmm thats a hard one to say.    Very hard to say what a fair market value is in your part of the world.     Look in your local bookstore for a collector car gude, or Cars guide to see what the model is worth in grade 4 or 5 condition.     Whats most important is that the car is in better than average shape.   Whats just as important is to know for a <fact> if the car is a 440 car or a 383 car.   Look at the vin.    Good luck to you.....

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I have the VIN; what do I look for to tell 440 versus 383?

NADA puts the car at $10,530 for "low retail."  The "Old Cars Price Guide" (August 2005 version) has the value at $3400 for condition 4 - this sounds WAY too low.

They're bringing good $$$ on e bay, too.

I think it would be a good deal for under $10,000 or so.

Car is said to run and drive very well, and is complete.  A fresh coat of paint would do wonders for it, too.

Any further guesses/thoughts on a fair price?

Scott

 

[hemi71]

A real 67 R/T would only have one of two engines...440-4 bbl or dual quad hemi. NO 383's in R/T's. VIN should be WS23L7 for a 440, WS23J7 for a hemi car. The 8 3/4 rear is wrong, any 4 speed 67 R/T should have a Dana 60 rear.  Fender tag will tell if it's an original 4 speed or auto car...get the info and post it and we can tell you what it was from Ma Mopar.

I sold a primo 67, red/red 4 speed 440 #'s car a few years back for 13K...but that was a few years ago. need more info on that one to give you an idea of fair price.

on a 440, look to the drivers side of the t'stat housing at the front of the motor...there is a flat pad stamped with engine ID...if it's an original 67 440 HP engine..it will have C440HP stamped on it on that pad. 383's dont have this flat pad.

[lumpy]

Nice Find!!! I love those '67's!!! It looks like an original R/T to me, it has all the proper pieces anyway,grille,hood scoop,emblems, door panels,tail panel, it should also have the 150mph dash, but it is easy to clone one from a Coronet 500. Be sure to check the vin to be sure that it is a real R/T. It could be a slant 6 3spd car, that somebody cloned, but I doubt it If everything checks out, you should definatley buy it!!!

[gomangoRT/SE]

I was checking around, and I think the $3400 for a condition 4 isnt way off the mark.    This car is something sound to begin with, but with proper detailing such as paint and finishing out the car nice you would spend another $6500 on it.   The interior is decent, but once you get new paint decent won't cut it for the interior.   Its the snowball effect.     I wouldnt offer more than $5500 to $6500 I would think.    The 67R/Ts are nice cars yes, but not the hottest body style on the market like the E bodies, B body Roadrunners and GTXs and the growing A body market.  I like this car, I do, but 90% of us have a tendancy to underestimate the cost of making the car complete.     And like stated before,  I would be suspect if the 4speed didnt have the Dana, although in time many things could have happened to it.   Those cars are easy to clone, be cautious.

[lumpy]

I would not hesitate if the price is right. These cars are appreciating very well. I have seen nice examples sell in the mid 20's, but those are numbers matching cars. I paid $4,700 for my '67 500 Conv. and it was not that nice. I had no problem getting my money back out of it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1967-DODGE-CORONET-RT-440-CORRECT-NUMBERS-MATCHING_W0QQitemZ4602069743QQcategoryZ6200QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Here is one that is pretty rough that bid up to $4,500.00

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MOPAR-1967-DODGE-CORONET-R-T_W0QQitemZ4601335132QQcategoryZ6200QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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The VIN checks out as a 440 car.  Didn't see the fender tag when I was looking at it - where would this be?

Too bad the Dana is gone.  How much is it going to cost me for a correct Dana?  I'm thinking it won't be cheap...

GoMangoRT/SE - if he offers the car for anywhere near $6500, he's got a sale.  I like the body style, the big block and the 4 sp, and just can't believe how little rust it has. 

Anyway, I NEED a Mopar; right now I've got two Fairlanes ('66 Convt and '67 street/strip 800 hp beast) and a '69 Judge (RA III w/4 sp), so I've got to get a Mopar in the stable.  Last Mopar I had was a '67 Dodge Dart GT convt with a little 273; it was a fun "beach" car (I was living in Hawaii), but would be nice to have a Mopar with some GUTS!!!

Thanks for all the input and keep it coming!

Scott

[TeeWJay426]

The fender tag will be on top of the left inner fender under the hood. You'd be looking at around a grand or so for an original Dana rear, depending on ratio. Reading the fender tag from left to right, bottom row, if the 7th character in (also the first single digit) is a '3', it's an original 4 speed car. The axle code will be in the 2nd row from the bottom of the tag, under 'AX', and should be '68' for a 3.54 Dana, or '98' for the 4.10. The 4 speeds are pretty rare; if it can be bought for anything less than 8K, it's a good deal. If there is no fender tag, the value would be considerably less. Another thing to look for is the condition of the chrome trim items- particularly the tailight bezels, trunk finish panel, and grille surrounds; if these need work or replacement, you're looking at a big financial hit.... probably bigger than the Dana. They are very hard to refinish correctly, and if you need to replace any of them, the prices are ridiculous.... when you can even FIND good ones! (and yes, I am talking from experience!)

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Damn, he wants $16k for the car.  I really like the car, but I'm not interested at that price or anything near that.

FYI - guy has quite a collection - 8 hemi cars (think he has 4 hemi '67 GTX's), lots of other Mopars.  80 cars total; mostly GTO's and Mopars.

Later,

SDW

[gomangoRT/SE]

Oops $16k.    Yikes    If he has that many cars, he doesnt need to sell.   Hard to buy a car reasonable without motivation from a sellers point of view.   He is not selling the car unless you offer him enough money it would be foolish for him not to sell it.      Be patient and keep looking.....   Heck on ebaymotors most cars go fairly cheap and dont sell.    You can probably find a car in your region and make contact there.    When the car doesnt sell sometimes the seller will come back to earth and ask less for the car a little later.   Plus the fact alot of people just shy away from buying a car they dont live close enough to see first.    Its how I bought mine.   

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That is too much money for sure. I'm sure it will be worth that one day in the near future, I was thinking more like 10K.