okay,was undoing things in the engine bay ,now back to this.I have undone the rods at the front of the trans.Looking at a diagram in a restoration guide,it looks like i can now unbolt the shifter mechanism from the trans and remove it with rods attached,or undo rods at the rear also ,remove all rods and then remove shifter mech.I appreciate your help and patience with what must seem like pretty basic stuff.