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Heated Alkaline Bath. NEW!!!! After Pictures.
« on: March 24, 2006 - 12:51:36 AM »
Well no matter what year my trunk lid is  in for a bath.

I took it over to  local metal cleaning outfit for a 2 stage operation to strip the old paint and the rust.
Step one is a heated alkaline bath about 180 degrees Fahnheit followed by a high pressure wash.Step 2 is a electrolytic bath which is like a revese plating and will remove any rust. A rust inhiitor is applied that will prevent oxidiing for about 30 days. I am doing this on the trunk lid because of the loose rust I can hear inside the lid. Turn around time on the lid will be about 3 days

Now I am considering dipping the entire car. While I was there I saw a Mustang rolling out the door that had just been done and it was beautiful,not the Mustang but the shiny clean metal. Cost for an entire car is about $1500.
Has anybody let there car take this bath? Any pitfalls? This is not an Acid bath. It sound like the way to go. Every inch of the car would be stripped and all rust or hint of rust would be removed. Cost wise it would probably save as my Body guy is $80an hour and plans on hand sanding the car and blasting the underneath.
This is a link to the place doing the work. http://www.americanmetalcleaninginc.com/pages/818544/index.htm
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Re: Heated Alkaline Bath
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2006 - 12:16:59 PM »
Sounds like a good way to go and I wish I knew about it a couple years ago. One question though, how much for just the decklid???
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Re: Heated Alkaline Bath
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2006 - 12:57:09 PM »
Sounds like a good way to go and I wish I knew about it a couple years ago. One question though, how much for just the decklid???

 Just the deck lid will cost $80.00  :money:
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Re: Heated Alkaline Bath
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2006 - 01:26:14 PM »
Just the deck lid will cost $80.00  :money:

Sounds well worth the price. Just thinking about all the sandblasting I did makes this method so much better. As always, please post some pictures if you decide to go this route.
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Re: Heated Alkaline Bath
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2006 - 01:38:06 PM »
Sounds well worth the price. Just thinking about all the sandblasting I did makes this method so much better. As always, please post some pictures if you decide to go this route.

I should get the lid back mid next week and will post before and afters.
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Re: Heated Alkaline Bath
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2006 - 07:14:49 PM »
No expert here but I've herd some negatives about dipping, all the metal you can't get to is now raw & will be a problem in the future, a friend dipped a charger, we spent days trying to get por 15 into all those spaces, never knowing for sure if we got em all?
I did my first hood, & rolled it with por 15 in all the framing after taping all the holes, after a year I tried to take the skin off because I still had rust problems, well I missed a lot & where the metal is tight(2 or 3 layers) it did not go in at all.
One solution is the  "e" coat process, but that about doubles the price. but your sure all metal is protected
On my next car I'm inclined to leave whats good alone & only deal with the parts that are rusty, then coat everything  I can with por 15 or eastwoods stuff.

? we did do acid baths, not sure what the difference would be on alkilne.does it provide long term protection to the metal you can't get to? Rich.
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Re: Heated Alkaline Bath
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2006 - 07:58:26 PM »


? we did do acid baths, not sure what the difference would be on alkilne.does it provide long term protection to the metal you can't get to? Rich.

The only difference I know of between acid and Alkaline is this  Acid bath can cause metal loss and or warpage of the metal alkaline does not . I look into the long term protection but I would think you would still need to treat.
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Re: Heated Alkaline Bath
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2006 - 07:38:40 AM »

   Seems to me the Dippers Should offer a service to Dip in primer or somthing pemanant to preserve  :dunno:
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Re: Heated Alkaline Bath
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2006 - 08:09:55 AM »
   Seems to me the Dippers Should offer a service to Dip in primer or somthing pemanant to preserve  :dunno:

 I'll ask on Monday
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Re: Heated Alkaline Bath. NEW After Pictures.
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2006 - 05:52:00 PM »
After a long soak in a akaline bath my trunk lid looks like this. Before it looked like that.

 I just found a guy close by that will E-Coat the lid and if that turns out ok I may have them E-Coat the entire car. How appropriate for my E-body
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Re: Heated Alkaline Bath. NEW!!!! After Pictures.
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2006 - 07:41:30 PM »
Looks Good, evidently pretty solid to start with, from what I've been seeing on the boards E coating is the only way to be sure, awaiting the results! Rich.

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Re: Heated Alkaline Bath. NEW!!!! After Pictures.
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2006 - 11:06:15 PM »
does anyone do this in California?

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Re: Heated Alkaline Bath. NEW!!!! After Pictures.
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2006 - 11:28:11 PM »
e coat = electrocoating ? or :dunno:
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Re: Heated Alkaline Bath. NEW!!!! After Pictures.
« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2006 - 06:29:37 AM »
e coat = electrocoating ? or :dunno:

 You got it electrocoating. Got a place in Norwalk Ohio about 45 min away that does it.

does anyone do this in California?


Search E-coating or Electrocoating and you'll pobably find on ein Ca.
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Re: Heated Alkaline Bath. NEW!!!! After Pictures.
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2006 - 03:17:44 PM »
That turned out great, TropicalCats! :thumbsup:  It sure does beat hand sanding the framework as well as the top. :grinyes:
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