E-Body Tire Combos

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Offline Mopar Mitch

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Re: E-Body Tire Combos
« Reply #690 on: October 17, 2013 - 12:25:52 PM »
A couple weeks ago I finally bought new BFG T/As (to replace my old, but rarely driven, same tires) for my "street/hwy/cruising" tires... replaced the front 245-60-15 with slightly bigger 255-60-15, and kept the same size rears at 275-60-15... all mounted on my "Performace Superlight" Vintage Minilites 15x8 rims.   The ride is excellent (street/hwy/cruising) and accomodates my stiff competition autocross /road course suspension very well during my "cruising to/from the events" (shows, races, etc).  Also, drove on them in one recent hi-speed road course/autocross event (Gingerman Raceway, SW Mich).. rained all day.. did OK.... looks great as I'm the "Pace Car" for their wheel-to-wheel road races!

I've also just acquired set of 16x8 minilte rims (Wheel Vintiques) with new BFG G-Force Comp-2 tires (255-50-16 front/rear).  I'll use this setup for road course lapping sessions and probably, as well, for the "competition hi-speed road course autocross" championship series events that I'm hoping/planning to get active in again, starting 2014 (~5-6 events for the typical series)....  www.mcscc.org (WIS, ILL, MICH, IN).   I intend to simply drive to/from these road course events on these G-Force Comp-2 tires.  (I haven't yet mounted these 16x8s onto the car... I'll post pics when I do.)

Eventually, I may get another set of Hoosier A6 competition (DOT-approved) autocross tires (they have 40 tread wear rating and stick like glue)... either 255-50-16 for th 16x8 rims, or else 275-45-16 for my lt-wt 16x10 rims.  These tires would have to be trailered (small tow-behind utility trailer or full-size car trailer).   The Hoosiers are the ultimate DOT tire for competition purposes, as well as allowed in the class that I'll compete in.  Just a matter of $$$ for me.

The idea of 200 tread wear tires is also on my mind, but as I have 2-sets of 16" rims (8" and 10"), unfortuantely, there aren't many/any offerings of 200 tread wear tires out there that'll suite my needs with these rims.  I wish, at least, if the newly introduced BFG "RIVAL" tires (having 200 tread wear) would offer them in a decent 16" size, such as at least 255-50-16... those could be driven to/from the events.   The 200 tw rating has become somewhat of a more common "club/class" tire spec.

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Re: E-Body Tire Combos
« Reply #691 on: October 19, 2013 - 11:54:19 AM »
Thanks for the reply
I'm using repo rallye wheels 15x7 front and back, I think 4.25 back space. I'm thinking of 245 60 on the front and 265 60 on the back. Will that be ok?
Can 265 60's be used on a 15x7 rim or would I have to use a 15x8?

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I heard 245/60 up front might be tight.  Not too sure but I know on the first post by Carlwalski and he uses the 245/60-15 up front but has 4.5 back space so you would need to watch out on the inner edge of the tire/rim. 

Not sure if the 265/60 will work on a 7" rim, not saying yes or no.  Try calling a local tire place and I know before when I went to NTB they had a book to show what size tire can be safely mounted on what width rim.  Or you can look on this thread and see who has tried it.

A 245/60/15 on a 15x7 with 4.25" of bs should fit just fine up front, I've got 275/40/17's up front on 17x9's with 5 bs and the 245/60/15 with that backspace should leave room all the way around compared to mine.

The 265/60/15 should be mounted on a 7.5" wide rim as far as I can see. You can do it, but some shops might not not like it. And you'll end up with some extra sidewall bulge, which will not help handling. I'd find a set of 15x8's and just run the 275/60/15's that you want to.

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Re: E-Body Tire Combos
« Reply #692 on: October 24, 2013 - 10:43:58 AM »
Well, since I have 4 15x7 rallye rims I'm going to use 255 60 15 on rear. I just can't decide 235's or 245's up front. I saw pictures of 245's, but I would like to see some pictures if possible of 70 challenger with 235 60 15 up front. Lots of older pictures from the beginning of this post don't show. So if any one can post a picture of a 70 challenger with the 235 I would greatly appreciate it.
Maybe 245 all the way around.  Man never thought picking tires would be the most difficult part of the resto. LOL    :bigsmile:

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Re: E-Body Tire Combos
« Reply #693 on: October 24, 2013 - 10:49:56 AM »
My avatar photo has 235x60 15's all the way round. You can see a larger photo from last years calendar voting page:

http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=87766.15


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Re: E-Body Tire Combos
« Reply #694 on: October 24, 2013 - 11:52:26 AM »
Thanks for the link

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Re: E-Body Tire Combos
« Reply #695 on: November 26, 2013 - 12:37:02 PM »
I thought I was going to be first. Oh well, they look great and I'm now in good company. Just got them on Friday night. One of my rear lugs cross threaded coming off and I broke a stud. Not good with a show Saturday morning. Had to find and replace it that night. Got it done.

These are 17x8 with 245-40-17 on the front and 18x9.5 with 275-40-18 on the rear. I can get the back spacing if you like. The right rear rubs just slightly (with a full load of passengers) but I'll be rolling the lip to fix that. Should be good after that.


Are those wheels from E-T Wheels (the LT-III)?
[url]http://www.team3wheels.com/lt_iii.html[/img]

I've been looking at these for a while (trying to save up)...  love the look.   I see some Rotas that look similar but seem really cheap.
I'd be curious about the back spacing if your setup is stock. 

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Re: E-Body Tire Combos
« Reply #696 on: November 26, 2013 - 02:26:34 PM »
Yeah, they're ET wheels. I looked for my receipt that had the backspacing details and couldn't find it. I've contacted the company again to see if I can get another copy. I'll update when I have the details.

Yes, it's a stock setup. I still need to roll the lip a bit more on the one side. I've done it some and it doesn't rub nearly as much but needs to be done more.

When I bought the wheels, I called and had them help me get the right measurements. They helped a lot and did a great job.

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Re: E-Body Tire Combos
« Reply #697 on: November 26, 2013 - 07:29:25 PM »
I was able to get a copy of my original receipt from the company.

Front 17x8 - 4.75" BS. Probably could have gone with 4 1/2"
Rear 18x9.5 - 5.125" BS


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Re: E-Body Tire Combos
« Reply #698 on: November 26, 2013 - 07:38:34 PM »
Peterro.

any fender lip roll or relocated springs??

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Re: E-Body Tire Combos
« Reply #699 on: November 27, 2013 - 01:03:48 PM »
No relocated springs but I did have to roll the lip on the passenger side.

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Re: E-Body Tire Combos
« Reply #700 on: November 28, 2013 - 01:53:51 AM »
I was able to get a copy of my original receipt from the company.

Front 17x8 - 4.75" BS. Probably could have gone with 4 1/2"
Rear 18x9.5 - 5.125" BS

Awesome, thank you for digging that info up.  I'll have to measure and compare to what I have going.
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Re: E-Body Tire Combos
« Reply #701 on: December 23, 2013 - 09:38:11 PM »
Well here's my 2¢ worth. I have been messing with MOPARs for 37 years. I've polished quite the pile of rusty buckets into shiny new pennies.
So I must chime in on the whole 255/60/15 front and 275/60/15 rear scenario. It's too much. The ideal tire size is 245/60/15 front and 255/60/15 rear on 15 x 7's for an E-Body. This combo is a perfect fit for both Cuda and Challengers. The 275 are just too tall for the rear and 255 cut it close on the fenders. If you go to 15 X 8, then the 275 will fit better , but the trim rings will fall short. It will be obvious that they are bigger than 7's. Look at the OP Carlwalski's car. you can see the gap in the rear wheels where the trim rings fall short to the center.
Step off my soapbox.........

That being said anything other than a nice stock look, then go with whatever you like. If your trying to keep it stock looking then stay with the sizes I mentioned..

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Re: E-Body Tire Combos
« Reply #702 on: December 27, 2013 - 02:14:08 AM »
Hey Lotsspins.. T/Anks for your 2cents... this is what its all about.   Perhaps you don't know, but my T/A has the fender lips tucked in/flushed and still appear stock... too bad the factory didn'tmake them like that.  AND... those mods were done to accomodate 275-45-16 Hoosier DOT race tires mounted on my 16x10 lt-wt rims for serious competition autocross/road racing events... has proved highly succesful (remeber the saying : "TYRES win races"...

Anyway, even with the lowered body height, the "street/hwy" 255-60-15 fronts and 275-60-15 rears fit AOK...  both are mounted on 15x8 vintage mini-lite rims (actually, they kinda look small ... just not fully wide enough to me with the opened lips, as compared to the race tires).... the 245-60-15 fronts were too small for my car.... but.. they are OK.

I have absolutely no fender lip interference with the 255-60-15 fronts or 275-60-15 rears.   The taller sidewalls helps with the ride comfort;  my suspension is fully modified for a nice flat (and stiff) ride through any/all corners... espically driving on the hwys going through fast curves, entry/exit ramps, etc... a pure joy to drive!

The 275-60-15 rears are a bit tall but they fit nicely inside the rear lowered height... and.. the taller diamter helps drop the hwy rpms a little (have a 3.23 gear, as well as optional 3.55 and 3.91.... all behind my 727).

Let's see.. I've been playing with different e-body tires sizes and rims since 1975...   no problems with 245-60-15, 245-50-15, 275-60-15, 255-60-15 (all on either 7 or 8 wide rims); 255-50-16 (on 16x8 or 16x10 rims), 275-45-16 (on 16x10 rims)... all front and rear.... I like big wide tires filling my wheel wells!
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Re: E-Body Tire Combos
« Reply #703 on: December 27, 2013 - 03:39:50 PM »
Now I have to ask if folks have more pics of 15x8 rims and 245/60-15 tires on the front.

I want to know how far you can drop the front? :burnout:
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Re: E-Body Tire Combos
« Reply #704 on: December 27, 2013 - 07:09:03 PM »
Mmmm... Love the mini-lites.