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Offline AU6pack

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Re: E-Body Tire Combos
« Reply #735 on: April 10, 2014 - 11:46:01 AM »
Still raining here in the Pacific Northwet...

Still???
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Re: E-Body Tire Combos
« Reply #736 on: April 10, 2014 - 04:39:58 PM »
Still???
OK, Always...
May get a break this weekend.  :bigshades:
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Re: E-Body Tire Combos
« Reply #737 on: April 12, 2014 - 10:20:39 PM »
Still???


A nice day to get the Cuda out finally.
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Both front and rear tires are 25.7" tall. Still sitting on old suspension. Every corner is a different height right now... :screwy:
That should change when I get all the new suspension on. Torsion Bars, ESPO Leafs... :working:









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Re: E-Body Tire Combos
« Reply #738 on: April 13, 2014 - 02:58:01 AM »
That really is a nice wheel package on your car, i will be buying a set of them for my convertible for sure :clapping:
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Re: E-Body Tire Combos
« Reply #739 on: April 13, 2014 - 08:07:51 AM »
That really is a nice wheel package on your car, i will be buying a set of them for my convertible for sure :clapping:

 :iagree: looks great!  :clapping: :2thumbs:
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Re: E-Body Tire Combos
« Reply #740 on: April 13, 2014 - 06:11:25 PM »
They do look awesome  :droolingbounce:
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Re: E-Body Tire Combos
« Reply #741 on: April 22, 2014 - 07:44:41 PM »
So I'm looking at new rims now. I'm going 15 inch. Problem is the rims I want  don't come in the right backspacing. 15 x 8 in the rears calls for 4 1/2 inch backspace. The vision rims I'm looking at are 4.44 inch backspace. Fronts are 15 x 7 4 1/4  inch backspace. The visions are 4.17 inch backspace. With a 275/60 15 tire in the rear I'm worried that it won't fit properly. Any ideas?
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Re: E-Body Tire Combos
« Reply #742 on: April 23, 2014 - 01:38:47 PM »
Those aren't off by that much, I'm willing to bet they'll work.  I assume you meant 275/60R15's.  I would still take careful measurements as every car is different.

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Re: E-Body Tire Combos
« Reply #743 on: April 23, 2014 - 04:43:06 PM »
Ok. What is the best way to measure?

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Re: E-Body Tire Combos
« Reply #744 on: May 13, 2014 - 10:21:52 AM »
Looks great! Would you happen to have a picture from the rear showing the width of the tires? :picture:
How much clearance on the rear tire? Did you roll the fender?

sorry i took so long to respond.... this is the best i have at the moment

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Re: E-Body Tire Combos
« Reply #745 on: May 16, 2014 - 06:58:24 PM »
Every corner is a different height right now... :screwy:
That should change when I get all the new suspension on. Torsion Bars, ESPO Leafs... :working:


Adjust those torsion bars.  They make a big difference of height on all four corners; not just the front.
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Re: E-Body Tire Combos
« Reply #746 on: May 17, 2014 - 10:29:52 AM »
So I'm looking at new rims now. I'm going 15 inch. Problem is the rims I want  don't come in the right backspacing. 15 x 8 in the rears calls for 4 1/2 inch backspace. The vision rims I'm looking at are 4.44 inch backspace. Fronts are 15 x 7 4 1/4  inch backspace. The visions are 4.17 inch backspace. With a 275/60 15 tire in the rear I'm worried that it won't fit properly. Any ideas?

I ran a 15x8 with 4.75 back space and a 295 tire. It was about .5" to the front segment of the leaf spring and 1.25" to the opening lip, but they fit. I would think a 4.44 back space with a 275 would fit fine.

Compare it against what you have now. What is your current rim spacing and tire size? How much bigger is 275 and what is the change in spacing? That should give you a visual of the change After all, we are only talking about a 1/16 of an inch difference from the ideal 4.5 spacing.

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Re: E-Body Tire Combos
« Reply #747 on: May 17, 2014 - 10:45:24 AM »
Adjust those torsion bars.  They make a big difference of height on all four corners; not just the front.
Yup, on my to do list. :2thumbs:
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Re: E-Body Tire Combos
« Reply #748 on: May 21, 2014 - 07:30:11 PM »
I ran a 15x8 with 4.75 back space and a 295 tire. It was about .5" to the front segment of the leaf spring and 1.25" to the opening lip, but they fit. I would think a 4.44 back space with a 275 would fit fine.

Compare it against what you have now. What is your current rim spacing and tire size? How much bigger is 275 and what is the change in spacing? That should give you a visual of the change After all, we are only talking about a 1/16 of an inch difference from the ideal 4.5 spacing.
My rims  are 14 x7  3.5 backspace. 215 70r 14. Big difference from a 275 14

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Re: E-Body Tire Combos
« Reply #749 on: May 22, 2014 - 12:37:22 AM »
215/70r14 is 26.9" tall and 8.7" wide. 275/60r15 is 28" tall and 11" wide . So your 1/2" taller from center. No big deal. You are also 1.15" wider per side, but call it 1 1/8" for simple measurements and fudge factor. Probably no big deal here either, but lets check.

With a 4" backspace rim you would have the same zero offset on a 15x8 as your 14x7 with 3.5" backspace and relating the above measurements would be simple tape exercise of adding in the extra dimensions against your current combo.

However, your chosen rim has 4.44" backspace which means it is .44 offset from zero. So you have to add .44 to the 1.15 for 1.59" That means you new combo will put the tire sidewall 1 1/2" closer to the leaf spring than your current combo. On the outside, we take out 1.15 wider tire and subtract .44 and get .71. That means your new combo will be just shy of 3/4" wider towards the wheel opening side than your current combo. So you can check: if you currently have more than 1.5" from the sidewall to the rear segment of the spring pack, (don't forget E body springs are splayed wider in back),  then your new combo will fit. Some on the outside, if you have more than 3/4" to the fender lip, it fits.

Now that you know how these dimensions compare, the change to a 4.5" backspace rim would add an extra .06 or 1/16" measurement to the spring side and subtract the same 1/16" from the fender side and you can see the difference between the 4.5 rim and the 4.44 rim.

Or you find a friend with the same combo, borrow his rim, and test fit it, have a beer, shoot the breeze.