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Offline Archialfa

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Re: E-Body Tire Combos
« Reply #975 on: December 23, 2015 - 01:41:22 PM »
Tire choice for 15" is very limited, does look good tho... :2cents:

Limited in the US, over here N/A!  >:(

I will start to look for wheels, but finding something by European manufacturers that will fit the looks and required sizing of a Challenger might be impossible. I might end up ordering from the US which will cost at least twice than I would pay if I could find some European wheels.
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Re: E-Body Tire Combos
« Reply #976 on: December 23, 2015 - 01:43:49 PM »
The questions you are asking there are many answers to.  Ride quality, handling, etc. all come into play with different arrangement.  Something to keep in mind in general, the shorter the sidewall, the harder the ride ~ not necessarily better cornering, that has more to do with tire choice and compounds... see what I mean about different answers?

Sure thing. I used to drive only Alfa Romeos, this is my first muscle car. I still have to get used not to be able to hit the corners and live to tell about it.  ;)

So yes, cornering is VERY important for me. Roads here are narrow and twisty so I'll have to set up the suspension, brakes and tires for handling.
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Re: E-Body Tire Combos
« Reply #977 on: December 23, 2015 - 01:47:49 PM »
Not sure where in Europe, but 15" sizes are very easy to find in all kinds of tires and sizes here... it's 14's that are limited in my opinion

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Re: E-Body Tire Combos
« Reply #978 on: December 23, 2015 - 03:20:43 PM »
Perspective I suppose. If you need street cruiser or drag racing tires, there is a decent  selection in the US of 15" tires. If you need speed rated, high ply construction, or high grip, d.o.t. approved UHP 15" rubber, there is virtually no choice, IMO.

Yes, typically for drag racing you want a lot of sidewall to cushion the impact on the tread face that is produced by the high rpm of the green light launch. In contrast, in a handling application you typically want a more rigid sidewall to reduce deflection and improve slip angles. The two disciplines are not very compatible.

Original equipment providers are continuing to put ever increasing diameter wheels on vehicles, so the selection of tires for sizes popular 5-10, or 15 years ago is shrinking, never mind finding true ultra performance tires for rim from 30-40 years go. This is why so many are migration to 17, 18 or even 20 inch rims. I surmise that eventually some of these custom width, large diameter tires will also disappear unless you are using a size that was offered widely on OEM manufacturer's vehicles.

There may be any number of wheels in central Europe that could be made to fit. The classic mopar bolt pattern is 5 lug on 114.3mm spread. There are numerous cars that utilize this pattern such as Acura, Bentley, Honda, Nissan, Mitsubishi and others. The biggest challenge with be finding a width and offset that is compatible with the suspension components in your Mopar. Similarly, if you go with 15" wheels, you can find some vintage tire offerings from Dunlop and Avon that have a fair amount of distributors in Europe. Will it be easy, no, but certainly not impossible.

Of course, all of that is contingent upon your countrie's restrictions and requirements for vintage vehicles. I know that some EU countries will only allow original or originally optioned equipment to be on cars that are licensed as vintage.

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Re: E-Body Tire Combos
« Reply #979 on: January 09, 2016 - 03:38:49 PM »
I switched out my wheels/tires with a set from another car just to see how they would look.

BEFORE:  Weld Pro Stars Fronts:  15x7 4.5" BS 235/60/15
                                     Rears:   15x8 3.5" BS 275/60/15


AFTER:   Boss 338     Fronts:  18x8.5  4.5" BS 245/45/18
                                Rears:   18x9.5  4.5" BS 275/40/18




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Re: E-Body Tire Combos
« Reply #980 on: January 09, 2016 - 08:52:48 PM »
Very nice! That is one BAD ASS looking Challenger!
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Offline TelisSE440

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Re: E-Body Tire Combos
« Reply #981 on: January 10, 2016 - 11:45:09 AM »
Very nice! That is one BAD ASS looking Challenger!

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Offline Archialfa

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Re: E-Body Tire Combos
« Reply #982 on: January 10, 2016 - 12:00:16 PM »
Wow, it's like you've read my mind! I'm considering exactly the same 15" or 18" combo you did!

I think 18" looks better...


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Re: E-Body Tire Combos
« Reply #983 on: January 10, 2016 - 01:36:10 PM »
Looks great!
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Re: E-Body Tire Combos
« Reply #984 on: January 10, 2016 - 01:57:37 PM »
What about ride quality? The 15" tires have more meat on them so they can should be considerably more comfortable to drive, no?


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Re: E-Body Tire Combos
« Reply #985 on: January 10, 2016 - 02:25:09 PM »
I switched out my wheels/tires with a set from another car just to see how they would look.

BEFORE:  Weld Pro Stars Fronts:  15x7 4.5" BS 235/60/15
                                     Rears:   15x8 3.5" BS 275/60/15


AFTER:   Boss 338     Fronts:  18x8.5  4.5" BS 245/45/18
                                Rears:   18x9.5  4.5" BS 275/40/18

Any mods to make the rear fit?
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Re: E-Body Tire Combos
« Reply #986 on: January 11, 2016 - 07:52:29 AM »
Surprisingly, there were NO mods necessary to make the rear fit!  There is actually room left over.  For the fronts, my front lips were rolled for another setup and would probably need to be rolled to make the 18's not rub in turns.  The front end does have QA-1 and Hotchkis parts, so I am not sure how the stock front end would work.

Regarding the ride quality, with the 18's I do feel the road a bit more, but nothing to be concerned with.

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Re: E-Body Tire Combos
« Reply #987 on: January 11, 2016 - 08:50:42 PM »
I prefer the modern look. The pro stars give a very classic look if you like it.  :cheers:
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Re: E-Body Tire Combos
« Reply #988 on: January 27, 2016 - 10:08:12 PM »
Has anyone successfully ran 255/60/15 BFG/TA on the front of their Challenger?

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Re: E-Body Tire Combos
« Reply #989 on: January 28, 2016 - 02:09:32 AM »
I currently have 255-60-15 T/As front, mounted on 15x8 minilte rims (and 275-60 15 rear on same 15x8 rims).   These same tires will also mount and work fine on factory 15x7 rims.  You can tuck the lips in for added peace of mind if you want (my car is already lowered).
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