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This series will allow you to make your Torqueflite work the way you want it to and increase your knowledge of what is going on inside it!

Install this Transgo Shift Kit with some mods to turn it into a performer!


Remove shift and throttle levers
Remove pan


Remove  ten 7/16 valvebody to case bolts


Remove and discard 1-2 accumulator spring



Part 2 to come soon!
« Last Edit: November 19, 2009 - 11:27:26 AM by tactransman »
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Re: Torqueflite Tips
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2006 - 02:02:01 PM »
Everything MUST stay clean!
(pic 1) Remove valve body half attaching screws(slotted. phillips or torx depending on the year)


(pic 2) Leave this check ball out if you want a tire chirping 2nd gear.

Engine power and torque,rear end ratio and intermediate band servo arm ratio play a big part in shift firmness
Reinstall all balls for just firm shift and resize holes as listed below.*
(pic 3) Separator plate hole with left pick drill to 11/64  OK if already bigger
*Separator plate hole right pick drill(look at the picture carefully the pick tip is in the hole)
   1/8 inch for  real firm
   7/64 slightly more than firm
   3/32 for firm
Drill hole with pocket screw driver to 1/8  OK to leave as is if a triangular hole


(pic 4) Turn pressure regulator adjustment counter clock wise with a 3/16 allen wrench until almost out of threads.

Put halves back together and tighten valve body screws.
This is for 727 or 904 Lock up or non lock up.
More to come!
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Re: Torqueflite Tips
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2006 - 02:13:50 PM »
This is why you have to check your fluid in neutral in a stock Torqueflite.
The manual valve dumps the fluid in the pan with the stock manual valve in the park position.

The TransGo manual valve seals the fluid off in the valve body in park allowing the fluid to circulate in park .You can check your fluid in park from then on, and it fills the converter as soon as you start the engine and slows down the drain back with it sitting. :bananasmi



More to come!
(Note) If you do buy a TransGo Kit  just follow the easy directions!
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Re: Torqueflite Tips
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2006 - 02:18:31 PM »
Looks Awesome!  Very cool!    :popcorn:

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Re: Torqueflite Tips
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2006 - 03:03:17 PM »
Always use manual low when you are "hot Rodding" in a Torqueflite.
When you take off in Drive in 1st gear only the rear sprag is holding the rear drum.




When you put it in manual low you get the low and reverse band on with the sprag so it is much stronger.
That's why you get "Engine Braking " when you pull the shifter down in manual low when you come up to a stop sign. That is the low band coming on.

That is also why I recommend manual valve bodies either reverse pattern or forward pattern with "low band apply". :swaying:
CRT and JVX are some

more to come. :wave:
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Re: Torqueflite Tips
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2006 - 03:39:43 PM »
You must modify the rear servo before you can correctly and efficiently manual shift a Torqueflite.
Remove rear servo from case.
Remove small snap ring on end of servo while in a vice
( Be careful it is spring loaded)
Install shims (washers) to make servo solid.
Assemble back together with big spring, install little snap ring . (try not to spread the little snap ring too much!)


Early model just remove little spring and reassemble servo.

Now you can manual shift without a 1-2 shift bind up! :bananasmi

More to come!
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Re: Torqueflite Tips
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2006 - 04:02:18 PM »
Intermediate servo levers: Numbers are stamped on the side of levers
5.0 not recommended- too much 2-3 shift over lap but can be made to work

4.2 Best, harder to find

3.8 Fine and dandy. You can buy one new from the dealer just ask for the part number for a 47RE with a Cummins or V-10. :bananasmi

3.2 not for racing ok for stock

2.9 pitiful



More to come! :cheers:
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Re: Torqueflite Tips
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2006 - 10:56:11 AM »
Lock up or non lock up , this is how you tell.
Input shaft- Non -lock up left.  Lock -up right (with pilot on tip)


Valve body -tube with auxilary valve body= lock up (first year available 1979-on)


Valve body - without tube = non lock up

727 or 904 it is the same.
The only difference between a 727 and a 904 VB is the parking rod.

More to Come! :thumbsup:
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Re: Torqueflite Tips
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2006 - 11:13:39 AM »
How do you identify what your Torqueflite is out of?
The number is stamped into the case here! :thumbsup:


Finding the part number in a book can be the hard part. Look here!
http://www.mymopar.com/downloads/transguide.pdf  :cheers:







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Re: Torqueflite Tips
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2006 - 12:22:38 PM »
How do you line up the converter to the flex plate on the first try?
Here's How!!!
 :swaying:


Big Block or Small Block this is how you tell.





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Re: Torqueflite Tips
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2006 - 03:14:42 PM »
For those of you who do not know what a "bolt in sprag" is, here is a picture of one.

From the factory the outer race is just pressed into the pocket in the back of the case , the "serrations " lock it from spinning
A bolt in sprag is held in by the serrations plus it is bolted solid to the back of the case thru the gov support housing. They are kind of "Tricky" to install because the bolts usually don't start in the outer race very good (bolt pattern is usually a little off). :pullinghair:
 Each one you do gets easier and easier. The bad thing is that most of the time the spring and rollers fail not the actual outer race. :dunno:

Here is a good look at the "serrations" that hold the outer race from the factory. It also shows the bearing available from Sonnax to repair a case that the inner sprag race has eaten into the case.



There is a heavy duty sprag on the market that has 16 rollers instead of 12 , it is pricey ($200) but it is a nice looking piece and very strong. (count 'em, 16 rollers instead of 12!)

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Re: Torqueflite Tips
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2006 - 12:56:44 PM »
Deep pan filter extensions.
Aluminum = good
Steel/tubes = not so good but still works.

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Re: Torqueflite Tips
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2006 - 01:06:59 PM »
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Re: Torqueflite Tips
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2006 - 01:31:44 PM »
Planetaries 3 and 4 pinion:
This is the difference between a 3 and 4 pinion planetary.
The 3 pinion can take alot of power so don't go through alot of trouble to look for a 4 if you do not have one.
I have two customers with 700 Horsepower race cars with 3 pinion planets in them and they have been fine for 6 years! :swaying:


(Note: to check your planetaries check each gear for tightness on their pinion shafts.They have needle bearings like a u-joint cap lined around the pinion shaft inside each gear , the needle bearings will pit the shafts and make the gear loose. The transmission will have a "whiney" low gear and then get quiet when it shifts to second when they get worn . A little whine in low gear is normal due to gear reduction)

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Re: Torqueflite Tips
« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2006 - 06:02:00 PM »
question tractransman, My 727 has been rebuit twice in it 50k mile (HARD) life. Not long after the last rebuild it became sluggish to go into gear when cold (new filter,flushed & refilled system recently). After everything warms up it works fine. What's the deal & is there anything I can to to improve the situation?
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