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Offline MoparMatt383

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aerohead?????
« on: May 03, 2006 - 02:54:59 PM »
I was wondering if anybody had any thoughts on Aerohead 360 heads for 499 or 599(J Casting)  I saw an old post that had a small mention that they were not very good.  I am building up a 340 with the edelbrock performer RPM package.  The set of 915 J heads I had needed too much machine work to be worth it and would probably cost 500 for a basic head job.  Anybody have any thoughts on Aerohead and if you recommend them is it worth to opt for the J head.

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Re: aerohead?????
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2006 - 06:56:56 PM »
Matt,

I have no personal experience from this company. but assuming that it is a division of indy cyclinder heads, I would imagine that they would be some nice cheap replacements for people who what a stock build with out a lot of the cost. I know personally i am in the same boat as you as, a set of heads i was looking at for my 340, are way to far expensive to rebuild. So i too am in the market for some stock looking cheap heads. I would love to hear the outcome, or opinions of everyone on this.

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Re: aerohead?????
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2006 - 09:27:09 PM »
Yea I would definately like to hear some feedback on them.  The 915 J heads I have now need a lot of guide work, a broken easy out to be removed from the exhaust manifold bolt hole, valves, and valve springs.  So for the amount I would have to put into these I could get the aerohead heads, but I dont know about their quality.

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Re: aerohead?????
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2006 - 01:57:24 AM »
the Indy / Aeroheads are good the company can be awful to deal with though

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« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2006 - 07:13:01 PM »
Different people have different experiences I guess.

As an INDY dealer, I can tell you from experience, I've NEVER had a real problem dealing with the Company.
They are REAL guys, and their product is "THE ****" !!

I expect the AEROHEAD side would be the same to deal with as it's the same owners, Russ & Scott Flagle, excellent people !

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« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2006 - 10:49:24 PM »
i too had a bad experience with aerohead, i order their edlebrock 360 head. i was expecting to bolt them right on then i notice the intake ports where rough from the cnc machine (ya i know its minor adjustment but $1350). so i call them to see what i can do about this, they said the only thing i could do is to pay for shipping back to them and then pay for thier portjob then pay for shipping back to me... i wouldn't recommend them to a chevy guy.



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« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2006 - 07:33:39 AM »
Hey MC, I'm sorry, you included pictures, but I still don't see the problem with the heads ? They wouldn't bolt on ?

There is always some port misalignment on the castings when delivered from Edelbrock, their CNC goes in approx 1 " from the gasket face as a cleanup, and can leave a "ridge" where it stops depending how bad the misalignment is.

The standard CNC cleanup does approx. 1" above the valve in the bowls and 1" in at the intake, Thats it, thats all.

There are always ridges somewhere in the heads where the CNC stops, but these heads wouldn't "bolt on" ?

Or, were the heads sold as "Full CNC ported", which would mean "all the way through" the port. ?

Apologies, I'm not trying to be "cute", I just don't understand the problem either ?

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Re: aerohead?????
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2006 - 08:10:37 AM »
This guy is very good on small block Mopar heads , check out his web site. :thumbsup:
http://shadydellspeedshop.com/
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Re: aerohead?????
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2006 - 10:37:12 AM »
ya your right MF, you can't really see the difference in the two heads from those pictures, but I'll post another one later. It's not that they won't bolt on, its that the CNC was so rough in one of the heads that it left pretty big humps in the radius, and should have been smoothed out with a resin roll- as the other head had been. Don't get me wrong I understand that the heads come with a rough CNC bowl, but this was an easy fix- and I believe they took advantage of my locotion and shipping. 
Aerohead claimed to re-work the heads to your application.  Due to the ignorance of the company, they overlooked a obvious imperfection without the slightest care of sending out a quality product. After consent communication with their customer service and sales team, I have come to the conclusion that this company DOES NOT have a customer service team.  They are in the business purely to sell, the service and consumer rights that the customer should have has been ignored and dishonored. To make my point even clearer, this company does not have a privacy policy, return policy, or customer agreement in hard copy form- does this seem to go by valid business regulations?! 

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« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2006 - 08:53:04 AM »
To be honest, I bought my SRs from Aerohead a few years back. I havent bought any thing from them since. The heads I have seen (one pair of 452 B heads, one set of "915" LA heads) was ok in quality. The work was not top notch, the parts were lowest grade possible for that application. About what I would expect for $500/pr tho. There are all kinds of shops out there. Some have the best equipment, some have good machinists and care, some have a dollar driven business, some will do the least they can for you to feel your satisfied. The shop I use (and I do roughly 10-12 engines a year thru them, plus misc onesy twosy heads/blocks) has top quality machines, and the guys that use them are 30+ year veterans doing only automotive, both are racers in their own rights, and the thought is "we can do it" no matter what the application. I have yet to get out of the shop with a set of heads built from my supplied castings for under $800. But, I also have yet to have any problem with any of the work they've done. You get what you pay for. If a shop makes money buy volume, the work and parts are cheap. If they make it off quality, the work and parts arent cheap.
Would I use Aerohead, if I need to buy brand new stuff, yes. I wouldnt pay for them to do any work for me. Besides, with shipping, your local shop may be doing a better job, and if they have an issue, you can drive it over to them. Think about it this way. They are selling you the cores, and buying oversize valves and springs. How much can they really spend on quality help to correctly set these things up, and still make money on them? 

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« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2006 - 12:23:20 PM »
Have had 2 sets of big block 452's from them.

First set had a poor amateur valve job, and 3 of the valve guides were extremely tight on the valves (like stuck).  Another $125 and the heads were fixed.

Second set I bought looked professionally done.  Picked them out after inspecting several sets first hand at the Mopar Nationals prior to purchase (saved the $68 shipping  8) ).

Guess it is a matter of who was doing the head rebuilding that day.

My engine guy was doing a Mopar engine awhile back.  Has his own machine shop, is major into building Super Comp Chebby engines, and use to Chebby vendors.   He called Indy with a problem with their parts, and he couldn't believe the guy's attitude on the other end of the phone.  He was ranting to me wondering how Mopar guys put up with those Indy people.
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« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2006 - 12:39:13 PM »
To make my point even clearer, this company does not have a privacy policy, return policy, or customer agreement in hard copy form- does this seem to go by valid business regulations?! 


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« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2006 - 08:52:27 PM »
go some place else..or you wish you had...

stort and to the point... sold cracked head then said it's my fault cause they don't do it that way...had the paper work and still got screwed....



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« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2006 - 09:23:25 PM »
BIG MIKE, you got sold a "cracked" head !  You never installed it, or ran it on the engine ?  The head was still "as supplied" clean and un-installed ?
How'd you find the crack ?
Who'd you talk to down there if you don't mind me asking ?

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« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2006 - 08:00:22 PM »
don't remember who i talked to ...it's been some time....

the head was installed...i talked to them and told them that i installed the head, ran it some to find the leak...they said no problem till they got the head....and it's not like i'm dumb or never built an engine  i'm a ASE tech.. with engine performance,engine rebuild cert.

they cracked it when the was putting heli-coils in on the end bolt/stud holes...i didn't have studs right then (wanted to start and run to start tuning it in) so i put bolts in with sealer and thought it didn't seal..so i looked closer and then saw the crack...

fact still remains.....garbage work..... garbage heads.....garbage company

good thing there not the only machine shop, parts supplier...or i'd change brands of cars or walk....