big block headers

[gibbs6017]

i have a 1070 challenger with a 440 (was a 318 car) with power steering i have some heares now but i amlooking for some that could go on and off with out pulling the motor and dont encapsulate the starter
thanks dylan

[Rev-It-Up]

Good luck Dylan!  We have a 383 with Dynomax headers and it's a tight fit and covers the starter.  With any bigblock you're going to have tight tolerances.  When we were putting the engine back in, we opted for a mini-starter which helped a little, but it's still pretty tight.

[Carlwalski]

tti 

[MEK-Dangerfield]

No such animal exists. They all encage the starter.

  Mike

[ntstlgl1970]

hedman makes a shorty header that doesn't encapsulate the starter, but they aren't the best if you are looking for max power probably

[MEK-Dangerfield]

hedman makes a shorty header that doesn't encapsulate the starter, but they aren't the best if you are looking for max power probably

Thanks for bringing that up. 

  I know Schumacher(sp) makes a shorty header that I asked Chryco about waaay back. He said they are poorly designed, and are just a compromise between the stock manifolds, and true headers. I believe they won't encage the starter, but at this point, we don't know the intentions of gibbs6017. If you are looking for the most bang for the buck, then true headers are the way to go, even if they are a pain to install.

  Mike

[ntstlgl1970]

"If you are looking for the most bang for the buck, then true headers are the way to go, even if they are a pain to install".

---and save up for good ones like the TTi's, much better quality and fit than hookers

here's a couple of pics for comparison:

1) hooker big block (5901?) competition header next to hedman shorty

2) hedman shorty modified with collector off of hooker header vs. stock hedman shorty

[gibbs6017]

do the headman shortys clea the power steraring and do they come in ceramiccoated

[ntstlgl1970]

according to their website they clear the power steering and they are available coated as well.....I think 78076 would be the part number but I would check with a parts place to be sure.


  CHALLENGER  TRANSMISSION 
Years Engine Painted Hedder Part# HTC Hedder Part# Elite Part# Repl. Gasket  A/C P/S Auto Col Auto Flr Std Col Std Flr  Tube & Collector
70-74 273-360 78050 78056 -- 27970 1, 6, 13, 129 Y Y Y Y Y Y (C) 15/8", 3"
70-74 273-360(Tight Tube) 78500 78506 -- 27970 1, 13, 15, 151 Y Y Y Y Y Y (C) 15/8", 21/2"
70-72 361-440 75060 75066 -- 27900 1, 8, Multi-Piece, Slip Fit Y Y N Y N Y (C) 2", 3"
70-74 361-440 78030 78036 78038 27900 1, 129 Y Y Y Y Y Y (C) 13/4", 3"
70-74 361-440 78070 78076 -- 27900 1, 15, 151 Y Y Y Y Y Y (C) 13/4", 21/2"
70-74 5.7L Hemi (Swap) 78604 76604 -- 27490 Hydraulic Clutch, Stepped Y Y N Y N Y (X) 11/2-15/8", 3