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Nitrogen filled tires.
« on: May 22, 2006 - 06:14:52 AM »
About to put new tires on the daily drive 96 Volvo 850 and just wondered if anybody here has filled there tires with nitrogen. I have read good things about the stability of the gas in tires and looking for some actual user.
 I would think this nitrogen would be great for a car that is being stored for long periods.

Found this link but as you can tell  they may be partial.

http://www.acppubs.com/article/CA6291735.html
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Re: Nitrogen filled tires.
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2006 - 08:46:34 AM »
I was watching a Nascar show and they do the same thing.  They say the Nitrogen doesn't seep through the rubber like regular air does.   If you have the nitrogen available, go for it.
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Re: Nitrogen filled tires.
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2006 - 08:55:03 AM »
Very intersting article!  Very informative!

Never thought of filling tires with anything other than air.

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Re: Nitrogen filled tires.
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2006 - 08:59:18 AM »
I've noticed some Volvo dealer now do it as well as some the national tire chains have started to offer nitrogen for there customers.
 If you buy a set of tires theres no cost to fill with nitrogen and if you want it put into tires that you already have its about $3.00 per tire and than top offs are free.
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Re: Nitrogen filled tires.
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2006 - 09:04:57 AM »
I wonder if you already have nitrogen in your tires and they are low can you add oxygen??? 

I breezed through the article and didn't see mention of it.  Maybe I missed it.

I'm no chemist but if you mix nitrogen (N) plus oxygen (O2)  do you get NO2  (nitrous oxide????  :clueless:   

Or does there have to be a special reaction or something or is this something totally different?
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Re: Nitrogen filled tires.
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2006 - 09:25:11 AM »
Why not just fill your tires with Helium.  You'll get better gas mileage. :roflsmiley:
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Re: Nitrogen filled tires.
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2006 - 09:28:34 AM »
 :clapping: :roflsmiley:
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Re: Nitrogen filled tires.
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2006 - 09:48:32 AM »
The article says that Nitrogen is an inert gas. Nitrogen isn't available to me, but I do have access to pure argon and the 80/20 mix of argon/CO2, from my welding bottles.  I wonder if that would work.

NAH!  I'm not going to experiment with my Mopars. I'm sticking with my air compressor.

Anybody want to try it with theirs, and let us know?

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Re: Nitrogen filled tires.
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2006 - 09:50:13 AM »
I wonder if you already have nitrogen in your tires and they are low can you add oxygen??? 

I breezed through the article and didn't see mention of it.  Maybe I missed it.

I'm no chemist but if you mix nitrogen (N) plus oxygen (O2)  do you get NO2  (nitrous oxide????  :clueless:   

Or does there have to be a special reaction or something or is this something totally different?


The very last part of the article talked about mixing your gasses.

Mixing Nitrogen And Air
There is some confusion about what happens when nitrogen and air are mixed inside a tire. By way of example: when a nitrogen-inflated tire needs some additional pressure and nitrogen is not available.

Normal air is about 78-percent nitrogen; so adding compressed air will simply drop the nitrogen purity. There shouldn't be any adverse affects on the tire or vehicle handling, provided the pressure is kept at the proper level.

The manufacturers of nitrogen inflation system advise that any tire containing both nitrogen and air be purged and then re-inflated with the proper amount of nitrogen as soon as possible. The same procedure holds true in the event that a tire would need to be replaced and nitrogen is not available.

In a situation where a nitrogen-inflated steer tire has been repaired and refilled with air, some nitrogen inflation system manufacturers recommend that the nitrogen be let out of the other steer tire and re-filled with air.

The reason, they explain, is that an air-filled tire will heat up and expand, whereas the tire with nitrogen will not, possibly causing a slight pull to the side with the nitrogen-inflated tire. With air in both steer tires, the air pressure will expand relatively equally, so there shouldn't be any steering issues.
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Re: Nitrogen filled tires.
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2006 - 10:01:18 AM »
Thanks for the info!  Good stuff but I think I'll stay with good ol air.
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Re: Nitrogen filled tires.
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2006 - 11:34:54 AM »
Someone was telling me that you can have your tires filled with nitrogen at Costco.
This would be a great solution for anyone that has tire presure sensors.  We recently had issues with the sensors throwing alerts in the winter.

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Re: Nitrogen filled tires.
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2006 - 03:22:11 PM »
My brother recently got tires, and they put green valve covers on to let you know they used Nitrogen. If mixing nitrogen and plane old air isn't recommended, then I'm with Super Blue 72 on this one. I'll stick with air. At least it's plentiful.  :lol:

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Re: Nitrogen filled tires.
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2006 - 04:22:06 PM »
Why not just fill your tires with Helium.  You'll get better gas mileage. :roflsmiley:

Might have to tether it off when you park it...   :roflsmiley:    :roflsmiley:  It would make it easier to work on the underside tho.....    :working:     :cooldancing: 

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Re: Nitrogen filled tires.
« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2006 - 08:55:03 PM »
With the price of gas these days, I think I will stick with "FREE AIR"
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Re: Nitrogen filled tires.
« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2006 - 09:57:39 PM »
I don't know what the gas ingredient in "fix-a-flat" is BUT once you use it the can comes with a WARNING sticker that you are suppose to put on the tire! to warn the tire changer that it has that ingredient in it!! because something dangerous can happen!! I was told that if the tire changer adds air to the tire something bad would happen!! :banghead: just my  :2cents: