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Offline Challenger_7

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Originality of 71 Conv Challenger
« on: May 24, 2006 - 05:17:44 AM »
Hi all, and thanks for the warm welcoming notes I was given.
I am new here and new to the Challenger. I just bought a 71 Challenger, conv. with 4 manual gear. The car is great looking but has been modified in few areas. I am trying my best to put it back in original shape, and need all your input to know whatcis the car supposed to look like.
Currently I am sorting out the electrics in it. Is it supposed to have lights that come on when the doors open? Any photo? How many and where should they be.
The front and rear (fender mounted) side lights currently come on with the rest of the lights. Are these supposed to blink with the blinkers too?
I also see there is a light that comes on that lights the few switchses on the top left corner. Is that all there should be?
Does it have a light ubder the hood and in the trunk. If yes please any photos?
The car originally did not come with an A/C, but has been modified to take one, with the proper dash and all. Would this affect its value negatively?
On all the photos I have seen so far, the bumpers look differently to my car. Has my car's bumpers been modified or was this an export option?
Should the car have 2 horns (mine has only one) and what should they be?
I would appreciate answers before I ask more, and please be patient with me as I have much to ask, and much more to learn from you all.
Here are some pictures of my gal!
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Re: Originality of 71 Conv Challenger
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2006 - 06:54:02 AM »
That's a beautiful car there.  :grinyes: Those bumpers are from a 73-74 Challenger, or at least the bumper guards are. I'll get back to you later about the wiring issue if someone doesn't chime in first.

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Re: Originality of 71 Conv Challenger
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2006 - 08:41:19 AM »
I agree with Mek, beautiful Challenger  :drool:

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Re: Originality of 71 Conv Challenger
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2006 - 09:40:40 AM »
OK, your side marker lights sound fine to me. They come on with the parking lights, and don't blink. Most cars only have one horn, so you are probably good there too. I see you have turn signal indicators on the front fenders, so it's possible your car might have the "light" package. There would be a map light under the dash on the passenger's side of the car if this is true. If you have the light package, you would also have a trunk light. There was no engine light. I'm sorry I don't know where the interior lights would be located on a convertible, but there has to be something.

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Re: Originality of 71 Conv Challenger
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2006 - 03:13:07 PM »
From what I notice right away;   1. Fender top mounted signal indicators are mounted on wrong side of fender. Rallye hooded cars had indicators on the outside of the fender because you couldn't see them where they are.
2.The side markers don't blink.
3. The horns were available in single or dual, you have to look on you broadcast sheet.
4. No dome light on verts. But you might have the under dash light and key light since you have the fender  blinkers.
5. Trunk light was optional, but you can add one if you tap off of the non-existant dome light wiring in the trunk.
6. Bumper have the wrong Rubber thingys on them.
7. Seats are wrong.

Still a Convert and Still worth some bucks.

Rob
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Re: Originality of 71 Conv Challenger
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2006 - 03:48:20 PM »
I don't believe the fender indicators are wrong, probably was not a rallye. hood car just a flat hood. The rear valance looks to have been cut out for the tips. The interior lights for a convertible are on the bottom edge of the rear interior panel at the door jam. Bumper rubber blocks are probably 73-74. Just take them off and replace with small 71 type.
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Re: Originality of 71 Conv Challenger
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2006 - 03:51:49 PM »
Do you have a fender tag or broadcast sheet for your car.  They will tell you what your car came with originally.  I think  a trunk light, map light and glove box light as well as the lighted ignition and fender mounted turn signals came with the light group.  All of the dash guages should be lit up when you turn on the headlights, if they aren't you probably just have a bad bulb or wire.  
Like other people said the rubber bumper guards are wrong, and the seats are wrong also.
Hope this helps.  It is still a great looking car.
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Re: Originality of 71 Conv Challenger
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2006 - 07:13:51 PM »
The fender top turn signals were not available with the R/T hood, the fender tag codes or a broadcast sheet would help sort some of this stuff out for sure.

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Re: Originality of 71 Conv Challenger
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2006 - 07:06:48 AM »
Thank you all for your comments, and please bear with me if I am not quite familiar with some of the terms ::)

Ok, Got Job since you have a conv, you are in a good position to contribute to some of my questions.
You said "The rear valance looks to have been cut out for the tips". What exactly does this mean. Any chance of you sending me a photo of one of the interior lights to know what they look like and where placed exactly.
I know there should be one on each side, is there one in the middle too?

inot2old (neither am I  ;)) I have fond a light in the trunk as well as the engine compartment, both activated when "tilted". Now you mention a map light. Where is that and what would it look like. Also any chance of a photo?

MEKrunner So from what you say, then the engine light was fitted by the owner? It is identical to the trunk light. See attached photo. By the way, is the paint color code an original sticker? Also photo attached.

From what some of you said, you are positive that the bumper guards are not original? Any chance that they were the standard export sort of thing?
Also does this mean that my hood in not correct? It should be flat??

One more question, please see attached photo of a light bulb fitting at the right hand side of the instrument cluster, currently not working.Any idea what is it for?

Thank you all.

« Last Edit: May 31, 2006 - 02:08:26 PM by Rev-It-Up »
71 Chally Conv 383 Magnum Manual - Hurst
71 Chally Auto 383 Magnum R/T 100% Orig
71 Chally Auto 400
70 Chally Auto small block
72 Charger SE Manual - Hurst
73 Plymouth Satellite "Sebring Plus" 100% Orig
Others: http://www.cardomain.com/id/Challenger_7

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Re: Originality of 71 Conv Challenger
« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2006 - 07:11:43 AM »
Sorry, I forgot to ask one more question relating to the carb. It has a 4 barrel "Carter" carb. Is that what it should have on, and if I choose to replace it, will the car loose value?

Thanks again
71 Chally Conv 383 Magnum Manual - Hurst
71 Chally Auto 383 Magnum R/T 100% Orig
71 Chally Auto 400
70 Chally Auto small block
72 Charger SE Manual - Hurst
73 Plymouth Satellite "Sebring Plus" 100% Orig
Others: http://www.cardomain.com/id/Challenger_7

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Re: Originality of 71 Conv Challenger
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2006 - 07:48:13 AM »
on the rear valance the corners of the cutouts for the tips look squared off and some type of edge on the cut. Your car probably came with a flat hood and no tips and a previous owner added these items. He might have cut the valance for the tips instead of buying a repo valance for tips. Here are pictures of the interior lights and valance
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Re: Originality of 71 Conv Challenger
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2006 - 07:51:15 AM »
the interior picture didn't post  will try again
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Re: Originality of 71 Conv Challenger
« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2006 - 06:09:34 AM »
Gotjob thanks for the photos. They helped a lot, and now I see what you mean about the rear valanche.
On the back seat lights of your car, I see the light shining out from the slots and totally dark from the round space facing the seat. Where as on my car, I have discovered 2 identical holes in the place where the light fits, with only one light there, but obviously either the light fitting is pointing in the wrong direction, or it is totally a wrong fitting because most of the light is shining on the actual seat. Please see attached photo.
Questions:
1. Are there supposed to be 2 holes? and what are they for?
2. Any chance of a photo without the seat in place to see the fitting?

Thanks
« Last Edit: June 11, 2006 - 09:49:23 PM by Rev-It-Up »
71 Chally Conv 383 Magnum Manual - Hurst
71 Chally Auto 383 Magnum R/T 100% Orig
71 Chally Auto 400
70 Chally Auto small block
72 Charger SE Manual - Hurst
73 Plymouth Satellite "Sebring Plus" 100% Orig
Others: http://www.cardomain.com/id/Challenger_7

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Re: Originality of 71 Conv Challenger
« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2006 - 07:02:41 AM »
Hi guys.

On a separate issue, I have located these seats (photos attached), that have apparently come off a 71 Challenger not conv. I aim to keep them in case they are ever needed, but the color is wrong.

Are these the correct type? Is it possible to dye them black, (currently dark green), and will this affect the value of the car if returned to its original state?
The last photo is of a label on the back of the back seat

Thanks for your input.
« Last Edit: June 11, 2006 - 09:49:55 PM by Rev-It-Up »
71 Chally Conv 383 Magnum Manual - Hurst
71 Chally Auto 383 Magnum R/T 100% Orig
71 Chally Auto 400
70 Chally Auto small block
72 Charger SE Manual - Hurst
73 Plymouth Satellite "Sebring Plus" 100% Orig
Others: http://www.cardomain.com/id/Challenger_7

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Re: Originality of 71 Conv Challenger
« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2006 - 03:52:10 PM »
I would think the front hole is an access hole to change the bulb when needed. My panels only have one hole. The seats you have appear to be '72-'74 seats because they look to have soft backs. '70-'71 had hard backs on the seats
70 T/A Plum crazy
71 vert. viper red
74 Rallye triple black ( sold )
76 Aspen Wagon
West Georgia