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Re: Is this Cuda worth $20,000?
« Reply #30 on: May 25, 2006 - 10:29:48 PM »
What is VIN on the car?  It could be a 340 Barracuda.  If not you will have to look at the engine casting to verify the motor is a 340.  I forget what the casting number should read but it will have a 340 in it.  I'm sure someone will post the correct casting number.

I personally would not offer more then $15k for the car IMHO.
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Re: Is this Cuda worth $20,000?
« Reply #31 on: May 25, 2006 - 11:26:17 PM »
Boy, I wish I had your problem trying to choose amoung all these Barracudas!  :lol:

Yeah, what's the VIN on the first car?  I think I agree with moparnut on this one.  I'm not positive about '70 but I know in the Plymouth literature for '71 the 340 was an option only on 'Cudas, not Barracudas.  See this link:

http://www.stockmopar.com/plymouth-barracuda/1971-brochure/12.html

Making a BIG assumption that the air filter housing is indicative of the rest of the engine, that may be a low compression 8.5:1 '72-'74 engine in there.  I think you can check the casting #s by looking at this link:

http://www.yearone.com/updatedsinglepages/Id_info/mopar/mopar%20casting%20numbers/castingnumbers.html

If you're going to sink some money into it and have the $$$ and want to do a full restoration, the white AAR is the way to go.  Yeah, interesting that it has a bench seat but a rally dash. 

If it has a bench seat should it have a column shift instead of a floor mounted shifter?

BTW, does that AAR have an engine?  It looks like it's riding kind of high in the front.

If you're looking to hop in and drive and have limited $$$, the first one looks good, but maybe for a wee bit less than $15K, depending on the options and it's running condition.

Just my 2 cents.
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Re: Is this Cuda worth $20,000?
« Reply #32 on: May 26, 2006 - 12:06:28 AM »
With the prices as they are the aar clone is the better deal of the two, but neither one is over priced in todays market. Go with the one that requires the least amount of replacement sheetmetal. Which by the pics looks like the aar clone. It would help if we had vin numbers to look like.
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Re: Is this Cuda worth $20,000?
« Reply #33 on: May 26, 2006 - 01:41:37 AM »
The real AAR is probably the way to go, IMO. It has the coloum shifter and a floor mounted shifter, so there have been some tampering with it. If the T/A engine is in the car it's a nobrainer.  :cheers:
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Re: Is this Cuda worth $20,000?
« Reply #34 on: May 26, 2006 - 01:57:50 AM »


I couldn't help but notice several other Mopars in the background of the pics...one yellow E bod convertible, and a B-body? What else did you see while you were there??  :picture:

White AAR is definitely the one to get but will be EXPENSIVE to restore if missing the original motor. If you can find a broadcast sheet for it under the seats/package tray/glovebox lining, you've just increased the value big time right there. Find out the fender tag if there's one, and engine, maybe he has the original motor/parts scattered in his shop? Definitely looks like a Rallye dash column auto bench seat car. Great for cruises with the women!  :naughty: You said he was "asking $20k", meaning the price was negotiable? Don't push your luck, $20k is still dirt cheap for an AAR! I bet you'll get plenty emails from "pick me! pick me!" in case you don't decide to buy it. Decide what you can afford, store it if you must (in a DRY place!) and do the job right.

That slant 6 Barracuda was kinda neat to see.....don't see too many of these.
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Re: Is this Cuda worth $20,000?
« Reply #35 on: May 26, 2006 - 07:33:59 AM »
Buyer be careful been there and have looked at the cars at Texas Toy box, I would not buy a car there unless I looked at it.......(imo)
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Re: Is this Cuda worth $20,000?
« Reply #36 on: May 26, 2006 - 11:11:19 AM »
Ok, here is an update. the white AAR is a true AAR. price is $30k, not $20k I found out. Car comes with a fresh unstamped 340 engine-whatever that means. Its an original column shift AAR with a bench-kinda odd combination.

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Re: Is this Cuda worth $20,000?
« Reply #37 on: May 26, 2006 - 11:11:57 AM »
here is the VIN on the white AAR-

The VIN # is BS23J0B289445

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Re: Is this Cuda worth $20,000?
« Reply #38 on: May 26, 2006 - 11:29:23 AM »
The barracuda was not available with a 340,just the cuda

Not true, the barracuda was available with a 340.  I have seen them, not many around but they do exist.  The VIN reads BH23H0XXXXXXX.
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Re: Is this Cuda worth $20,000?
« Reply #39 on: May 26, 2006 - 12:42:43 PM »
Not true, the barracuda was available with a 340.  I have seen them, not many around but they do exist.  The VIN reads BH23H0XXXXXXX.

Must be another MaMopar Fluke,Acccording to any literature I have found it wasnt available.That doesnt mean someone didnt order one,still means it wasnt available in order Docs,if we want to split hairs.
http://www.plymouthbarracuda.org/history/product.html
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Re: Is this Cuda worth $20,000?
« Reply #40 on: May 26, 2006 - 02:00:22 PM »
Ok, here is an update. the white AAR is a true AAR. price is $30k, not $20k I found out. Car comes with a fresh unstamped 340 engine-whatever that means.

Unstamped means the block was held over for warranty purposes or factory parts stock. However because some people think putting in a unstamped block will add more value to a car than putting in a wrong-numbers motor, some people take a metal grinder to the VIN pad and smooth it out, and there you have it, a 'unstamped' block! Keep in mind judging from the pics this seller knows his Mopars (he has several in that yard!), so for him to bargain price an AAR, would lead me to question everything until validated.

If you decide to buy the car, take pics everywhere and post them here. You'll get good feedback. $30k shifts the playing ground a little, IMhO considering the condition of the car.

Good luck and keep us posted!  :thumbsup:
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Re: Is this Cuda worth $20,000?
« Reply #41 on: May 26, 2006 - 02:19:41 PM »
in yall's opinion (each person here) what is the value of each car in your opinion? (or what you would pay for it)

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Re: Is this Cuda worth $20,000?
« Reply #42 on: May 26, 2006 - 03:18:58 PM »
What I would pay and what they are worth are two different things,lol.I also wouldn't buy any of them without a detailed inspection of the rust.I would probably go no more than 5-10k each,but thats me.The 10k would be for the AAR,would be more if it was numbers matching
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Re: Is this Cuda worth $20,000?
« Reply #43 on: May 26, 2006 - 05:50:10 PM »
in yall's opinion (each person here) what is the value of each car in your opinion? (or what you would pay for it)


Tough to say with just those pictures . . .  :clueless:

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Re: Is this Cuda worth $20,000?
« Reply #44 on: May 26, 2006 - 06:14:22 PM »
I would go with the real AAR,those cars are starting to pull some real money. I have also heard of several T/As and AARs being reunited with their original blocks through the T/A.and AAR registries. They did make some 70 Barracudas with 340 engines. I would check the VIN,and engine block numbers, that car may be worth the twenty grand,if its a real 340 car,with the matching numbers engine. I would still go with the AAR though! The red slant six car is rusty,and those spots only get worse,once you dig into them.