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Offline trouble

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Re: Are all 440 six packs created equal?
« Reply #15 on: September 03, 2006 - 12:04:18 PM »
Trouble, what's teh casting date on your intake?
    The casting date is 11/10/69 ,that is the same date on my block 11/10/69.   




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Re: Are all 440 six packs created equal?
« Reply #16 on: September 03, 2006 - 01:15:34 PM »
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  The casting date is 11/10/69 ,that is the same date on my block 11/10/69. 

Well they don't "need" to match to be considered correct, but that's pretty cool (and unusual) that both were cast on the same day!

FYI, My intake was cast on November 5, 1969, my original engine was assembled on December 11, 1969, and my car was scheduled to be built on February 12, 1970.

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Re: Are all 440 six packs created equal?
« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2006 - 07:50:06 AM »
Is it true that al six pack blocks have a cross forged into them? I sa my friends block when he bought it and it had the cross in it. He was big on the "original" thing so he payed alot of attention to those types of details.

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Re: Are all 440 six packs created equal?
« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2006 - 11:26:24 AM »
The cross on the block means nothing at all, there is NO WAY of decerning any regular 440 block from any other 440 block, they all started as the same casting, period end of story. As each block was pulled and final machining was done "Notes" in the form of letters and symbols were stamped into the raised ID pad on the front drivers side of the block. One letter stamp indicated the model year car it went into (B=1966,C=1967, D=1968, E=1969, F=1970,G=1971) 440's assembled as "HP" engines were all maked "440 HP" and then some where marked with a "1" or a "2" which meant assembled on the first or second shift. So, an engine stamped "F 440 HP2" would be a 1970 High Performance 440 engine assembled on the second shift, this could have been either a regular 440 four barrel or a six pack engine. Only the VIN identification on the block (a machined pad down near the oil pan rail) could identify it for certain as to which engine it was, this would be reflected in the VIN sequence which indicated the cars engine designation (U or V code) or if the VIN on the car is known and matches the sequence on the block (often the VIN is incomplete on the blocks).
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Offline Robert1050

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Re: Are all 440 six packs created equal?
« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2006 - 10:48:54 PM »
If the aluminum manifold has the factory part number cast below the center carb, it's a genuine '69 manifold.  Edelbrock still lists their current production RB 6 pk manifold in their catalog (or at least they did last time I looked).
1970 Challenger R/T 440-4
1970 'Cuda 440-6 (Gone, but not forgotten)
1999 Sea-Doo XPL 69.0 MPH
1998 Sea-Doo XPL 66.3 MPH
1981 Eliminator Daytona 80.3 MPH

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Re: Are all 440 six packs created equal?
« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2006 - 11:46:05 PM »
the 6 pack manifold is still available from Eddy

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Re: Are all 440 six packs created equal?
« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2006 - 07:36:16 AM »
Actually the iron cross, and a few others were meant to designate things to the engine assembers. Things like .001 oversize lifter bores, .010 under bearings...That kind of thing. I know there are lists of exactly what each symbol meant..But I dont have it anywhere..anybody else?

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Re: Are all 440 six packs created equal?
« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2006 - 11:59:33 AM »
Coming in a little late on this one but  - did I read that 440 6 packs had forged steel cranks and not cast cranks?  I just took my 440 6 pack apart and it has a forged crank.  Is this correct?  Now I'm confussed.

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Re: Are all 440 six packs created equal?
« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2006 - 01:12:02 PM »
all HP blocks used forged cranks
the Maltese cross markins are found in the fist 6-8 pages of the service manuals , I can post them if needed

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