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Transmission lines and engine torque
« on: September 18, 2006 - 07:25:28 AM »
I am runing new aluminum transmission lines for my Cuda.

I want to run them along the frame rail and keep them out of site as much as posible, unlike the factory routing.

How do I accouunt for the touque of the engine when dong this?  I don't wnat to bend new lines and mess them up when I start the motor.

I am open to all suggestions!

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Re: Transmission lines and engine torque
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2006 - 07:51:03 AM »
Your going to need somekind of a flex line so the motor and trans dont rip them off the frame rail or you could try and strap the motor down on the drivers side,I would adapt some kind of fittings and flex line

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Re: Transmission lines and engine torque
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2006 - 10:18:21 AM »
I agree , you will need to flare the lines & use a short piece of hose to allow for movement
 I hope you are using mild steel lines not alum , alum cracks virtually instantly if flexed at all

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Re: Transmission lines and engine torque
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2006 - 10:50:30 AM »
I agree , you will need to flare the lines & use a short piece of hose to allow for movement
 I hope you are using mild steel lines not alum , alum cracks virtually instantly if flexed at all

I was planning on using aluminum lines...in fact I have ordered the lines.   :sly:

What if I instaled the lines along the factory routing, would that account for any flex?

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Re: Transmission lines and engine torque
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2006 - 11:09:13 AM »
I would not use aluminum lines. :nono:
 I would stick with steel.
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Re: Transmission lines and engine torque
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2006 - 11:31:52 AM »
if the lines are routed as per factory there is no flex as the lines will move with the engine & tranny , actually there is some movement at the rad but it is allowed for with the extra lenght of line near the rad

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Re: Transmission lines and engine torque
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2006 - 11:54:36 AM »
if the lines are routed as per factory there is no flex as the lines will move with the engine & tranny , actually there is some movement at the rad but it is allowed for with the extra lenght of line near the rad
:iagree:  I agree Chryco, I don't know if aluminum lines will handle that little bit of flexing though. :dunno:
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Re: Transmission lines and engine torque
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2006 - 11:56:16 AM »
Ther is NO way I would use alum lines

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Re: Transmission lines and engine torque
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2006 - 11:58:48 AM »
:iagree:  I agree Chryco, I don't know if aluminum lines will handle that little bit of flexing though. :dunno:

So what you are saying, is that I should return the aluminum tubing and go with steel tubing and follow the factory routing.

Anyone got pics of the factory routing, my lines are FUBAR and are not going to help me any.

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Re: Transmission lines and engine torque
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2006 - 12:05:21 PM »
So what you are saying, is that I should return the aluminum tubing and go with steel tubing and follow the factory routing.


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Re: Transmission lines and engine torque
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2006 - 10:46:14 PM »
Nothing wrong with altering the routing as long as you still use steel lines & use a section of rubber hose to allow for flex
 Basically the lines run along the side of the trans & engine & route between the engine oil pan & mount on the K frame , keep them tight to the engine & trans to clear the exhuast & starter 

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Re: Transmission lines and engine torque
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2006 - 06:21:33 AM »
Thanks guys.

I apperciate the advice.

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Re: Transmission lines and engine torque
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2006 - 08:37:47 AM »
What if I ran the lines (steel) along the frame, but did not strap the lines to the frame?  Would this allow for the necessary flex?

The line woudl come out form the tranny, at a 90 degree angle, bend at the frame, run the length of same, bend 90 degrees an head towards the rad, ben anmoth 90 degrees and mate to the rad.

The lines coudl have one suport along the frame rails if required, but woudl not be bolted solid.

Thoughts? :dunno:

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Re: Transmission lines and engine torque
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2006 - 09:07:47 AM »
If you mount the lines to the frame , you will have to use a  hose to connect them to the transmission. :grinyes:

Are you talking about buying prebent lines and mounting them to the frame? If you are I would not do that because they will be prebent to fit the OEM location. You will have to modify them greatly. If you are going to mount them to the frame, buy straight lines and custom bend them yourself. :thumbsup:
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Re: Transmission lines and engine torque
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2006 - 09:39:02 AM »
If you mount the lines to the frame , you will have to use a  hose to connect them to the transmission. :grinyes:

Are you talking about buying prebent lines and mounting them to the frame? If you are I would not do that because they will be prebent to fit the OEM location. You will have to modify them greatly. If you are going to mount them to the frame, buy straight lines and custom bend them yourself. :thumbsup:

Definatly custom bending the lines.  Prebent are far to expensive to ship to Canada.

Are there any issues with using a rubber hose in the tranny lines?
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