Help me settle a dispute...

[gcone]

...a friendly one, I might add.  I own the 71 HemiCuda Clone to the left in partnership with my brother.   We have no intention on selling it anytime in the near future, but after a few powerful brew-hah's last weekend we got talking about what it may be worth, etc/blah-blah and how many 69 RR's or 70 Chally's could we trade it for!!lol.

It came as a GranCoupe auto w/ac, and now has a 1971 426 block, aluminum heads and headers.  A complete, funtional ARGENT shaker sits on top of the dual-quads.  The 883 sits in a box since I installed a Tremec 5spd last year.  The DANA 60 houses 3.54 gears.  The bodywork is astounding for a 1998 frame-on resto, as is the interior.  I did replace the starter, steering gearbox, poly bushings, all front end components and added sway bars. I added the 18 and 20" Coddingtons this year, and installed 3500.00 worth of Diamond and JL Audio equipment.

In short, this car is easily a 90-92 out of 100 from a show standpoint.  We both agree that is it were numbers matching, it would bring between 350-400K.  So what do you guys think this clone would be worth...Brother thinks 150-175k-I think more like 110-135K...any thoughts? Thanks for your feedback (the loser here has to buy the next case of Bud!!!)

[pink panther]

It is worth what someone will pay for it, ( I know that answer sucks, but is true)  The 71 is the most desired cuda out there and also the hardest one to obtain, so it is worth quite a bit without being a hemi clone. I don't think 150K is out of the question by any means, as I said it is up to the person buying it though.

[Moparal]

Now, instead of a poll on here with people that dont have that kind of money, the best way to try and settle it to me, would be to list it on ebay with a reserve and no buy now and see how high it goes. Then you would get actual true bids on it if yer partner doesnt catch a buzz and do some shill bidding. Then it's tequila for everyone  eyeyeyeyeyeye.

[Challenger6pak]

IMO it is worth the value of the Grand Coupe + the value of the Hemi motor conversion + the labor cost to put it together. 

[1973challenger360]

id say 100k is pushing it.  with recent prices id say 85-90k  you can pick up a convertible clone for 110k why would they pay more for a ht clone.   change the rims and yank out the audio crap and maybe 105K

[Cuda Cody]

 

In todays market.... 100K is going to be the roof.  It's kinda nice to see the prices coming back down.  Maybe now we can weed out the people who are in the hobby for the money.

[gcone]

Some interesting opinions...

I (we) bought tha car 3 yrs ago before the "boom" and have a little over 72,500.00 in the car (not counting our 'post resto' labor).  As a dealer/broker, I have owned and placed 14 Hemi cars in the past 6 years.  Having an understanding of the demand and value for hemi cars, we decided we wanted a 426 E-body for a driver-but it had to be nice.  That's the beauty of clones...if you find a craftsman who can do or has done quality work, the same expirience is to be had for a fraction of the cost-and generally remains a solid investment. I have a 69 Charger RT, 71 Demon, 70 BOSS 302, 67 Camaro RS/SS and a 70 Chevelle SS-all except the Chevelle are clones. Why?  Cuz I love to drive them. I am not saying one should not drive a rare, numbers-matching origional car, I simply do not want to spend an exhorbant amount of money when something more moderate will do.

Speaking of investments: CODY, you make a great point.  Unfortunately, I do not think we can win over capitalism as long as there are people willing to spend the 250k+ and not even blink an eye. I do not feel, however, that prices for highly maintained and crediblely restored cars with 426, 440-6, 440-4 or LS6454's are likely to drop in value...unlike what we have seen with Mustangs and Gen 1 Camaros.

1973Chally360:  you may be right on your values...yet I have yet to run across a hemi stick ragtop that has had a frame off for 100kand yes I could "change the rims" and "yank out the audio crap" (the ralleys are in the rack, as it the AM radio) but man gimme a break, will ya?   

[Challenger6pak]

It's just all opinions.  All of them are different; just like the opinions of your buyers will be different.  I like the wheels myself.

[Cuda Cody]

Challenger6pak is right... they are just opinions.

As for me, you couldn't give me that car, I'm telling you the truth.... I SWEAR!  Go ahead and just try! 

Of coarse I'm just kidding with ya.  The 71 Cuda's have always been one of my favorites.

[TreeFrog]

not hard to put more money in a car than you will ever be likely to see out of it...if you have the money to spare.

But in that case you likely did it for yourself, not to sell.

[71fish]

110k if it's a vert clone. If it's a hardtop.. (vinyl roof lowers it imo) 75k if it's gorgeous. The fact is.. there are many clones now with all the repop parts available. ONLY real deals, bring big bucks now.

71fish

[n9671x2]

Looks like a nice car.   Any more pictures?   I doubt 71fish's answer isn't what you guys are expecting to hear, but I think he is pretty close.    Allowing 30k for the drivetrain in your car, is the car as a roller worth 80 k plus??? 

Before you think I am just another guy beating up the car out of jealousy, I think my car is worth probably 60k.

It is a real TX9 BS 71 Cuda, all factory panels/trunk, done top and bottom.   Shaker/OEM louvers added.   460 horse small block, 5 speed, B body Dana.   Absolutely everything mechanical/wear is new.  Added PS and Disc brakes.   Correct rallye cluster with near mint all original leather interior including correct door panels.  Restored rimblow.   All chrome/stainless/anodized is new/restored.   

I think your brother is buying the next round 

[Choppintime]

I'd have to agree with 71fish and N9671x2. Maybe the car might be worth a bit more if it was a real Cuda ? I agree the market has been flooded with these clones lately. Your car looks incredible, not trying to knock it at all. I'd love to see more pictures.

I have a real Bs 71 Cuda that was originally a 340/4 speed car. Two fender tag car that took a turn to modified in the 80's. Hasn't seen the road since 1977. Hope to have it out in the spring of '07. Be 30 years since it hit blacktop.

Anyway, being a real Cuda four speed with a ton of options I'd have to say the car as it sits with the numbers motor has to be worth 40K or thereabouts even with the wild paint. The body panels/pans, etc. are incredible. Everything is or will be new/done to pretty nice quality. That being said it will hit the streets with a John Arruzza 511 Hemi, Keisler five speed and an orginal '70 vintage E body Dana.

What's it worth with the drivetrain ? I didn't finish this car up as a clone as it's not cloned to be a Hemi Cuda. My thought was that is was so wild looking it deserved to be just as wild in the engine/drivetrain area. I didn't do it to sell it but man I hope I didn't go head over heels into the car. I'd hope I could get at least 75k for it but I know I'd have to find the 'right' buyer for it if and when I ever sell it. The 'right' buyer will need to be loaded either with cash or a lot of liquor in them ( both would be beneficial ) or maybe a Latin guy will just have to have this car. It's been dubbed the LSD Cuda but could probably do just as well during a Cinco de Mayo parade 

Enough of the long winded post.......I'd have to think your car is around 70K, not trying to beat it up at all just an opinion

[hemi71]

I sold this 472 4 speed hemicuda clone for 58K last year. Ran great, needed a lite resto.

Sold my 70 Hemicuda clone...69 426, 5 speed 4.10 dana, completely restored car needing MINOR finishing for around 75K in August of this year. Car was the straightest black car I've ever seen.

Like others have said...a  very nice ragtop clone will bring over 100K....not a hardtop.

[chevyconvert]

I'd have to agree with 71fish and N9671x2. Maybe the car might be worth a bit more if it was a real Cuda ? I agree the market has been flooded with these clones lately. Your car looks incredible, not trying to knock it at all. I'd love to see more pictures.

I have a real Bs 71 Cuda that was originally a 340/4 speed car. Two fender tag car that took a turn to modified in the 80's. Hasn't seen the road since 1977. Hope to have it out in the spring of '07. Be 30 years since it hit blacktop.

Anyway, being a real Cuda four speed with a ton of options I'd have to say the car as it sits with the numbers motor has to be worth 40K or thereabouts even with the wild paint. The body panels/pans, etc. are incredible. Everything is or will be new/done to pretty nice quality. That being said it will hit the streets with a John Arruzza 511 Hemi, Keisler five speed and an orginal '70 vintage E body Dana.

  It's been dubbed the LSD Cuda but could probably do just as well during a Cinco de Mayo parade 

 

Choppin' Personally I think that custom paint job looks cool, but it's funny how these days they aren't considered "in" on cars....Harleys are a differnent story for some reason.

Sorry Gcone for gettin' off the subject...just enjoy the car and don't worry about what it's worth.
I hope mine doesn't have to be trailered around...it'll mean it's not running.