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    Offline tactransman

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    Re: Rebuilding the trani
    « Reply #210 on: January 03, 2007 - 07:47:45 AM »
    Bob, if the converter spins freely but the butterfly weight hits the flex plate, the converter is in all the way , you just don't have it aligned with the flex plate (it only bolts up one way to place the weight in the right spot to balance the engine.) The weight on the converter should be 180° from the weight on the harmonic balancer. The important thing is does the converter spin freely and move in and out of the pump with it bolted up to the engine? If so you are going to have to unbolt it from the engine and pull the transmission back far enough to turn the converter to the right spot.
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    Re: Rebuilding the trani
    « Reply #211 on: January 03, 2007 - 07:51:05 AM »
    Quote from: tactransman on January 03, 2007 - 07:47:45 AM
    Bob, if the converter spins freely but the butterfly weight hits the flex plate, the converter is in all the way , you just don't have it aligned with the flex plate (it only bolts up one way to place the weight in the right spot to balance the engine.) The weight on the converter should be 180° from the weight on the harmonic balancer. The important thing is does the converter spin freely and move in and out of the pump with it bolted up to the engine? If so you are going to have to unbolt it from the engine and pull the transmission back far enough to turn the converter to the right spot.

    Ok, then it was in right in the first place, just not lined up.  :faint:

     :roflsmiley:   :roflsmiley:  This ought to be fun putting it back in myself.....  Yeah the converter spins freely in the case, it's exactly as you said though, the weight is not in the right place.  I looked at the pics you gave in the other thread on how to line it up, so I'll do it that way.  :2thumbs:
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    Re: Rebuilding the trani
    « Reply #212 on: January 03, 2007 - 07:51:50 AM »
    I'd say look around for anything you can fashion into somthing to immulate the wrench. Even a piece of wood that could be notched & drilled to fit. 
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    Re: Rebuilding the trani
    « Reply #213 on: January 03, 2007 - 07:52:36 AM »
    OK it looks like it might be in all the way you have to put that weight in the right spot before you bolt it to the engine. The weight on the converter will go opposite of the little hole in the flex plate next to the crank bolts. (like in the picture I posted but substitute where it says "drain plug" for "weight".)
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    Re: Rebuilding the trani
    « Reply #214 on: January 03, 2007 - 07:59:24 AM »
    Like so:

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    Bob

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    Re: Rebuilding the trani
    « Reply #215 on: January 03, 2007 - 08:01:12 AM »
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    Re: Rebuilding the trani
    « Reply #216 on: January 03, 2007 - 08:01:52 AM »
    k, I'm off to ty it out.  Be back in a little with results.  :2thumbs:
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    Bob

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    Re: Rebuilding the trani
    « Reply #217 on: January 03, 2007 - 08:09:10 AM »
    Quote from: RDF on January 03, 2007 - 07:44:02 AM
    Also, any ideas on how to keep the converter from slipping out besides what Rob suggested?  no offense rob, but I don't have those wrenches and I'm trying to utilize my time today  :bigsmile: and work on this instead of buying some.
    If you keep the transmission level , it should be fine with out the wrench holding it in. Some times you have to lean the transmission out from under the car because of an exhaust cross over pipe or like Cordaba's and Magnums have a torsion bar cross member that is hard to remove and in the way of the transmission removal. It is faster to lean the tail housing way up and take it out that way, the wrench is necessary on those for sure.
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    Re: Rebuilding the trani
    « Reply #218 on: January 03, 2007 - 08:47:13 AM »
    It's in!  :crazy:  :jumping:

    I've got 2 of the 4 converter bolts in, but the trani is bolted to the block and the cross-member is hooked back up.  So it's 99% as far as the trani going in! 

    Thanks for the tips, it made that job a little easier that's for sure.  :2thumbs:
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    Bob

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    Re: Rebuilding the trani
    « Reply #219 on: January 03, 2007 - 08:59:43 AM »
    Glad to hear that.   for everyone else putting in a tranny, you don't have to use a wrench to hold your converter in.  Just use anything that you have that will keep it from sliding out.  Even a piece of bent metal with a hole at one end will work. I just had a wrench that had some good bends to it, so I used it.

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    Re: Rebuilding the trani
    « Reply #220 on: January 03, 2007 - 09:29:50 AM »
    ok, trani in and all bolted up.  I'm trying to put the drive shaft in, it seems to go in about 1/4 of the way, then it stops.  I noticed there is a larger groove in the yolk on the driveshaft, so I tried to find it in the tailshaft, but no luck.  Any ideas?  I don't want to force this in if it goes a certain way.  :dunno:
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    Bob

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    Re: Rebuilding the trani
    « Reply #221 on: January 03, 2007 - 10:15:05 AM »
    It should go in any way. It doesn't get tight where the drive shaft doesn't turn does it? You didn't change the extension bushing did you?
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    Terry-tactransman 
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    Re: Rebuilding the trani
    « Reply #222 on: January 03, 2007 - 10:57:53 AM »
    Quote from: tactransman on January 03, 2007 - 10:15:05 AM
    It should go in any way. It doesn't get tight where the drive shaft doesn't turn does it? You didn't change the extension bushing did you?

    I did change the extension bushing.....It feels like it goes in about 1 inch, then hits something.
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    Bob

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    Re: Rebuilding the trani
    « Reply #223 on: January 03, 2007 - 12:44:04 PM »
    Ok, I removed the rear seal and tried to take some pics of the bushing.  I tried to put the shaft in after removing the seal and it looks like it's hitting on the bushing.  Should that area (see pic below) be hammered into the groove?  :clueless:
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    Bob

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    Re: Rebuilding the trani
    « Reply #224 on: January 03, 2007 - 01:24:53 PM »
    The bushing is messed up . What did you install it with? It is probably mushroomed on the end. You might try filing the end of it on the inside to open it back up.
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    Terry-tactransman 
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