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Offline rallyechall

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Is it worth the effort to have car certified by Galen Govier?
« on: January 03, 2007 - 07:58:19 AM »
OK, I know that a car Galen has documented brings more money than one that has not been documented. My question though hovers around the fact that while most of my car is original, the motor is not. This seems to be the only piece to the puzzle that is missing. All my numbers match down to the transmission. The motor is not the same year, but it is the same size. Is it worth having it documented since it is not 100% numbers matching?




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Re: Is it worth the effort to have car certified by Galen Govier?
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2007 - 08:00:14 AM »
I don't think it adds that much to have Lord Galen certify a car.   :2cents:

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Re: Is it worth the effort to have car certified by Galen Govier?
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2007 - 08:04:23 AM »
You will see him at this years Barrett Jackson ride up in someones Cuda, last year it was Bill Goldburgs 70 383 Cuda vert.

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Re: Is it worth the effort to have car certified by Galen Govier?
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2007 - 08:49:17 AM »
His certification paper does look kinda cool with your other documentation, IMO. 

Me thinks it takes a while to get though, from what I've heard from others.  :dunno:
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Re: Is it worth the effort to have car certified by Galen Govier?
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2007 - 09:23:56 AM »
OK, I know that a car Galen has documented brings more money than one that has not been documented. My question though hovers around the fact that while most of my car is original, the motor is not. This seems to be the only piece to the puzzle that is missing. All my numbers match down to the transmission. The motor is not the same year, but it is the same size. Is it worth having it documented since it is not 100% numbers matching?

It really depends on  what you mean by "certified by GG."  If you are talking about having your documentation decoded and so forth, it's not worth it.  Just post your codes here and a bunch of different people will tell you how it decodes. 

If you are talking about having him physically inspect your car, then it really depends on what your car is.  For instance, it's not worth the THOUSANDS of dollars he charges to come and inspect your car if you own a 1973 Rallye Challenger but if you own a "V" code Cuda, it could make a big difference if you were to sell the car and it has "Lord Galen's blessing."
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Re: Is it worth the effort to have car certified by Galen Govier?
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2007 - 09:38:32 AM »
nope.
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Re: Is it worth the effort to have car certified by Galen Govier?
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2007 - 09:50:12 AM »
That was more or less the answer I was looking for. I have decoded it, but I do not have all the nice things like the broadcast sheet etc. It is a 1972 Challenger Rallye. It is an original 340 car. I am putting it back to stock with this restoration. Is it personal preference to get this particular car documented, or is the model and package the driving force. I am only guessing that the folks that responded have not had their cars documented. That is Ok as I value all opinions that are posted. I would however like to hear from some others that have had their cars documented so I can get a good demographic to base my decision. The 72's were the last of the higher-perf Challys, it is a 340, and it is red. I would think it is worth the documentation. Another way to look at it is If you had two identical cars side by side for sale, and only one was documented by GG, which car would sell for more money? I think at auction the buyer does not have the time to trace the numbers to see if the car was legit, thus, the car that Galen documented is guaranteed to be what it says it is. It gives the buyer piece of mind.

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Re: Is it worth the effort to have car certified by Galen Govier?
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2007 - 10:43:54 AM »
If you're talking about the Galen Govier Registry, for $11 I say just go for it.  :thumbsup:

Cheap money and it looks cool.  ;)
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Re: Is it worth the effort to have car certified by Galen Govier?
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2007 - 01:39:49 PM »
I may catch some flack for this one but here's my opinion.  I was recently with Galen when he did an AAR for my buddy. Galen does know what to look for and does give a person a nice "package" with history on the car.  With time and research a person could do this themselves.  We had the knowledge to do this to the AAR. Where we were lacking was resources.  The original fender tag was gone and we just don't have a list of tags that would help us place the car as far as dates to do a proper fender tag.  Barry has a lot of this information now and tried to help us.  For the things Barry does without charge he is to be commended.  So here we where with a numbers matching AAR that is in concourse condition with no tag. Was it worth paying Galen for the information?  Yes.  Would it be worthwhile on a 318 car or a nonperformance car?  No.  Will Galen certified help sell the car.  Maybe.  Will his information so the proper fender tag is on the car help sell it?  Definitely. 
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Re: Is it worth the effort to have car certified by Galen Govier?
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2007 - 02:06:28 PM »
What are we talking about as far as $$$$ to have Galen come out to your house to personally go over your whole car?  :clueless:

Is that what we're talking about, rallyechall?  :dunno:
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Re: Is it worth the effort to have car certified by Galen Govier?
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2007 - 03:14:47 PM »
If your numbers match, and you have a build sheet, fender tag, etc. Nothing else is needed. It's not worth it unless you have a high dollar car (hemi, vert, big-block) that is missing documentation. And it's still just his opinion, although  it is a highly regarded one.

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Re: Is it worth the effort to have car certified by Galen Govier?
« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2007 - 04:46:04 PM »
Yes Super Blue, I am talking about the works. I am missing the window sticker, build sheet, and all other paperwork that came with the car new. I have yet to contact the historical society to see if they can find the line card for it. That will help with the paperwork as I can get replacements. The build sheet I have is from a 318 Challenger of the same color close to my number. I understand that this may happen from time to time. Needless to say the original has yet to show up. When I see these cars for sale, they always mention Galen Govier documented. I think it is probably a wise thing to do if you want the most out of your vehicle.

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Re: Is it worth the effort to have car certified by Galen Govier?
« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2007 - 06:25:39 PM »
Not to change the subject but...  My car didn't come with a fender tag. I have a build sheet. As far as I've found  Galen is the man to make a fender tag? I think it costs 160 bucks? Would it be a good idea to get one?
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Re: Is it worth the effort to have car certified by Galen Govier?
« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2007 - 06:29:48 PM »
Not to change the subject but...  My car didn't come with a fender tag. I have a build sheet. As far as I've found  Galen is the man to make a fender tag? I think it costs 160 bucks? Would it be a good idea to get one?


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