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Re: 1970 Challenger R/T bumblebee stencil kit,
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2007 - 08:10:13 PM »
That would be awesome! Any 1970 TSBs by chance? I need a set to scan for the website so everyone can use them.  :thumbsup:

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Re: 1970 Challenger R/T bumblebee stencil kit,
« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2007 - 08:40:40 PM »
Looks like mostly 71.  Not alot of Ebody stuff in them.  Mainly C body and Cricket.  I guess the E's weren't alot of trouble.  I'll get with you over email and see what I have that you need. I just posted one in the cassette player what's it worth. 
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Re: 1970 Challenger R/T bumblebee stencil kit,
« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2007 - 11:07:12 AM »
I used the stencil from Phoenix Graphics and its sucks. Not even close to the original strip.  I had to redo the back of the car. When I called the company they gave me a lame excuse and said the factory had two types of stripes. See attached file for the result of there stencil kit. It has been corrected since.
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Re: 1970 Challenger R/T bumblebee stencil kit,
« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2007 - 11:15:59 AM »
I see this is your first post.  Welcome aboard.  We would like to see more pics of your car in the newb intro section. 

http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?board=30.0
« Last Edit: January 11, 2007 - 11:19:31 AM by Challenger6pak »
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Re: 1970 Challenger R/T bumblebee stencil kit,
« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2007 - 12:18:45 PM »
would love to see a few pics of the corrected version too!
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Re: 1970 Challenger R/T bumblebee stencil kit,
« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2007 - 12:34:10 PM »
This is a picture of the corrected stripe. I just winged it from pictures of other cars.
Allan G.

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Re: 1970 Challenger R/T bumblebee stencil kit,
« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2007 - 01:33:50 PM »
I see this is your first post.  Welcome aboard.  We would like to see more pics of your car in the newb intro section. 

http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?board=30.0



Have posted there with more pictures,
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Re: 1970 Challenger R/T bumblebee stencil kit,
« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2007 - 02:27:33 PM »
This raises a question I've had for a while...What is the shape of the Bumblebee Stripe across the trunk lid?
From the factory drawing , I think it is wider at the edges of the trunk lid, and thinner at the middle (slightly angled in a V-shape when viewed from the rear of the car - Like the pictures of Allan's car, above). 
However, most people have told me that the BB stripe is either straight across the trunk lid, or thicker in the middle and narrowing toward the edges (opposite of the drawing).

My interpretation of the engineering drawing: (http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/engineeringDrawings/ei021.jpg)

The drawing locates the front edge of the thin stripe (in inches) from some reference point toward the vehicle front.  (You can see that the dimensions get larger as you move toward the rear of the car, ending in 134.00 at the back.)

If we look at the trunk lid in the engineering drawing, the front edge of the stripe is 128.44 inches at the right side, and 129.10 inches at the center.  This suggests that the stripe narrows (129.10 - 128.44 = 0.66 inch) toward the center.  (This seems to be how Allan painted his, and how the stencil kit apparently goes).  In the sketch below, I have tried to explain how I'm reading the drawing...Sorry my artistic skills are limited.

Can anyone shed some light on this?   :dunno:
Barry:  Do you happen to have any pictures of that original green car with the yellow bumblebee stripe (that 6pak posted earlier in this thread), showing the entire trunk lid?

I'm getting my BB taped/painted in the next day or two, so I appreciate your feedback.  I'm not looking to be correct to a thousandth of an inch or anything, but I want to make sure the stripe is the correct shape.  Thank you!
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Tom
« Last Edit: January 11, 2007 - 10:50:03 PM by 70_challenger »

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Re: 1970 Challenger R/T bumblebee stencil kit,
« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2007 - 05:58:16 AM »
I have heard straight across and higer in the middle.

I see the drawing but am not sure.

I will say from a prespective view is may apear to be more narow in the midle due to the contures af the car and the angle from which you are looking.  at to make it Visualy straight you would almost need to make it higher in the middle.

But I do not know for sure...even if it was not supposed to be straight, I would think (from what I have heard about time issues) chances are good they did not take the time to tape special angles, but rather masked of the rear trunk in a straight line.
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Re: 1970 Challenger R/T bumblebee stencil kit,
« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2007 - 07:50:53 AM »
I wish now I had measured things out before I stripped the paint off my bumble bee stripe car. I do have this pic from a sales brochure.  It doesn't show much of the trunk. I guess we need to see the center of the trunk lid on an untouched car. 
« Last Edit: January 12, 2007 - 08:18:38 AM by Challenger6pak »
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Re: 1970 Challenger R/T bumblebee stencil kit,
« Reply #25 on: January 12, 2007 - 08:58:36 AM »
 I found this also from Chrysler.  It is what I have used in the past to do the stripe. I am going to try to post it large so everyone can read it.  If that doesn't work I can email it to anyone who needs it. I'll do 2 posts.  This first post is where the information has come from.
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« Last Edit: January 12, 2007 - 09:01:19 AM by Challenger6pak »
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Re: 1970 Challenger R/T bumblebee stencil kit,
« Reply #26 on: January 12, 2007 - 09:04:47 AM »
Article:
1969 Sport Satellite H code convertible, 1970 Cuda 440+6, 1970 Challenger R/T 440+6, 1970 Challenger 383 R/T auto, 1970 Challenger R/T 383 4 speed,1971 Challenger convertible.

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Re: 1970 Challenger R/T bumblebee stencil kit,
« Reply #27 on: January 12, 2007 - 09:42:03 AM »
 :wow: :wow:  That's AWESOME!  :ylsuper:

Hey - It disagrees with the engineering drawing, but it's a clear description of how to paint it!  This is what I will use.

Thank you!

Tom

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Re: 1970 Challenger R/T bumblebee stencil kit,
« Reply #28 on: January 12, 2007 - 09:49:54 AM »
I have never calculated it out but I believe it is the same measurements.  They are just put in plain English for we non-engineers to understand.  Now you will have to post a pic of your stripe when it is done.  I'll try to get the hood decal measurments later today.
« Last Edit: January 12, 2007 - 09:53:51 AM by Challenger6pak »
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Re: 1970 Challenger R/T bumblebee stencil kit,
« Reply #29 on: January 12, 2007 - 09:52:33 AM »
Still the debate... was the strip painted before or after the car...this says after...

Challenger6pak has some original pics and says that one was painted before the car was...go figure...difference in plants?
« Last Edit: January 12, 2007 - 09:54:24 AM by TreeFrog »
65 Satellite     361 Ruby Red Poly
72 Challenger    360 Top Banana     
73 Challenger    340 Triple Black
87 Dodge Ram     318 Blue
88 Dodge Ram     360 Grey (+)
04 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 4.7L Pewter Met.