trespassing on other's property

[Devil]

Its only trespassing in certain circumstances.

For example, here you can cross any land to get to any beach (within reason, you cant cross someones back yard to get to a beach thats a few kilometers down the road) because all beaches are owned by all New Zealenders, making it illegal to restrict access to them.

Not here in the US you can't.  If a person owns the property that lays between you and the beach, you must walk around.  You cannot go onto another persons property without permission. 

Now the intensity of the punishment could be from nothing, for walking up to a door to ask about the car, to being arrested for being on someones property, moving and touching things that aren't theirs.

Ryan

[71challengher]

I'm sorry but I can't stop laughing!!!!!       

[Andrew]

Not here in the US you can't.

Im not there in the US, so That law doesnt apply to me.

I stick so my original statement, that there should be a third option added saying "within reason" or something like that.

[bigblock4speedman]

I say THANK GOD WE LIVE IN THE U.S.A.!!!  We have a constitution, a very good one, and we have our rights and freedom and yes our laws are different from other places.   We stand apart from the rest of the world because of the way we do things, one of these things is to respect people and their property, as guranteed by our constitution. I like to read the cool stories about the good finds that people have found, and I hope this topic won't discourage them.  It shouldn't because I figure the people here go about it the right way.  The people on this site seem to have good judgement and however you make a cool find, just be careful and respectful, like you would want yourself and your property treated.  As Old's Cool says, it's real simple.

[Topcat]

If you don't want shot, stay off other peoples property with out asking. 

Salt rock will keep them remembering you forever!

[Devil]

These topics won't stop people who find the cars lawfully.  If they don't have anything to hide, they won't care posting.

Ryan

[Lunchbox]

Where I am from it isn't uncommon to go on to someone elses land unless it is posted (i.e. no tresspassing signs) Which are only up during deer hunting season.  

[Carlwalski]

I see your point Andrew, I think we're a little more relaxed down here though in some respects. You can leave your doors open in the rural and most guys won't care, no guns down here, maybe a few hunter rifles but if it's 10 acres and it's near a road it would probably be OK but I myself would still ask. Thank God I live in New Zealand, we're free like anyone else. Mind you, every country is the land of the free except for Iraq and probably a few small African countries.

[Andrew]

Iv been researching a little (well a few minutes on google is hardly researching, but I found most of the info pretty quickly anyway) and found that under American law, you are rarely allowed to shoot trespassers. This leads me to believe that anyone who does is gonna get put away for murder.

[Killer_Mopar]

I think a lot of it has to do with where the vehicle is located on the property and where the property is located. I live in a lower-middle class city with plenty of crime, so you better believe that I have the "shoot first and ask questions later" philosophy. I live a hundred feet off the road, in a well lit house, with a ditch in front of it, and I had my radio stolen out of my car less then a year ago. If I had my car parked in front of my house and someone was taking pictures from the sidewalk I probably wouldnt mind. The moment they touched the car would be the moment they better be prepared to defend themself from verbal and/or physical attack. I get my permit to carry in a few months and if I see someone in my backyard snooping around....the gun will be drawn, police will be called, and charges will be filed. So to anyone willing to trespass, keep in mind that I am not the only one with that belief....so if you want to risk fines and your life go ahead.

[moparnut]

 If you have your front door open at your house, can I come and poop in your bathroom long as I dont make a mess? 

Sure you can,but you will be crapping out of more than one hole if you do

[BIGSHCLUNK]

Sure you can,but you will be crapping out of more than one hole if you do

       :roflsmiley     

 

[Killer_Mopar]

Iv been researching a little (well a few minutes on google is hardly researching, but I found most of the info pretty quickly anyway) and found that under American law, you are rarely allowed to shoot trespassers. This leads me to believe that anyone who does is gonna get put away for murder.

In most places you cant shoot someone for stealing unless you believe your life is in danger. Recently, there are cities that have had enough and allow the use of force if someone is trying to steal your car or rob you. Also, in America if you are going to shoot someone robbing you then you better make it count - shoot to kill. If you leave the criminal alive then be prepared to get sued by them and/or their family. Its quite ridiculous how the law system works here. Anymore it seems like criminals have more rights then honest people.....

[jeryst]

Iv been researching a little (well a few minutes on google is hardly researching, but I found most of the info pretty quickly anyway) and found that under American law, you are rarely allowed to shoot trespassers. This leads me to believe that anyone who does is gonna get put away for murder.

Just because it's not allowed doesn't mean it won't happen. The prisons are overflowing with people who didn't care about the law when they did whatever they did. You can be right, and dead, at the same time.

[Andrew]

there are cities that have had enough and allow the use of force if someone is trying to steal your car or rob you.

Yes most places have laws like that, but they state "Reasonable force".

For example:
Someone is on your land, and you dont want them there - You can go and physically push them off your land.

Thats reasonable force.

Someone is on your land, and you dont want them there - You can kill them.

Thats unreasonable force.

I get the feeling that some members here have trouble telling the difference between the two.