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Rallye Wheels and Trim Rings?
« on: March 11, 2007 - 01:09:06 PM »
Fellow Members,

I had posted this in the "Suspension..." category, but it wasn't getting much attention, so I thought I'd post it here as well.  Sorry for the repeat.
I am wanting to change my current wheels from Weld Racing Prostars to Mopar Rallye Wheels.  I bought a 1970 Challenger Convertible resto-mod in June '06 that was mini-tubbed ~ 3" and had a leaf spring relocation kit installed (very professional job by the previous owner).  In addition, an 'A' body 8.75 rear end was utilized giving a lot of room for really wide tires.  The previous owner's choice for rear tire/wheel combo was 15"x10" Weld Prostar with 315/60-15 BFG Drag Radial TA (13.5" section width on a 10" rim).  I will either look to Stockton Wheels or Wheel Vintiques for a wider, custom size.  This is because I'm not fond of the "balloony" look of the sidewalls with the tire's bead being pulled in on the 15x10s.  The sidewalls on the fronts look nice and fairly square with 15x7 and 215/70-15 BFG Radial TAs.  Although BFG states a max rim width of 11" for the 315/60-15, I have room for a 12" wheel and I don't think the extra inch will cause too much trouble with the tire.  Plus, I feel that the extra 2" on the rim width will help me on the "balloony" look.  The back spacing on the Welds is 5.5 inches.  When I order the 15x12s, I will be asking for a 7.5" back spacing due to the added 2" (it's the inside where all the extra room is).  The standard trim ring will work fine for the fronts, but the rears are another story (since the front spacing will be deeper than standard due to the 12" rim width and the 7.5" bs).  Does anyone know of a way to deal with the rear wheels (regarding trim rings) to get close to the look that the fronts will have with the trim rings installed?  A standard trim ring on a 15x12 rallye wheel with a 7.5" bs will leave a rather large space between the inside edge of the ring and the front side of the wheel center.  Has anyone ever heard or known of way to get custom trim rings?

Thanks
« Last Edit: March 16, 2007 - 01:34:38 AM by filmsurgeon »
1970 Challenger Convertible (JH27N0B); Resto-Mod; 605 HP, 412cid Small Block; Holley 750CFM Carburetor; A-833 23-spline 4-SPD; A-body 8.75 rear-end w/3.55 gears; 3" mini-tub; leaf spring relocation kit with split-leaf mono and Caltracs; American Racing AR500 Wheels, Rears = 15x10 (5.5" BS) with 315/60-15 BFG Comp T/A Drag Radials; Fronts = 15x7 (3.5" BS) with 215/70-15 BFG Radial T/A Radials.




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Re: Ralley Wheels and Trim Rings?
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2007 - 06:37:59 PM »
I;ve run into thsi before, I never did find anybody who makes a wider trim ring to make up gap that you are talking about.

BTW, if Stockton wheel makes your rallyes, remind them to drill out the  valve stem holes, and put them in the right location so the mopar trim ring will fit. Been there, done that!

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Re: Ralley Wheels and Trim Rings?
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2007 - 06:48:56 PM »
I remember that Larry.  That was a pain in the butt for you.

I haven't seen custom trim rings anywhere as of yet. 

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Re: Ralley Wheels and Trim Rings?
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2007 - 10:55:13 PM »
Thanks for the feedback.  So, are there any suggestions on how best to deal with this dilema?  I can opt for all  chrome Rallyes from Wheel Vintiques and not use the trim rings, but I think that's gonna look kinda funky.  Thanks for the tip on the valve stem holes.  It seems a bit rediculous that it wouldn't be part of the routine when Stockton fills an order.
1970 Challenger Convertible (JH27N0B); Resto-Mod; 605 HP, 412cid Small Block; Holley 750CFM Carburetor; A-833 23-spline 4-SPD; A-body 8.75 rear-end w/3.55 gears; 3" mini-tub; leaf spring relocation kit with split-leaf mono and Caltracs; American Racing AR500 Wheels, Rears = 15x10 (5.5" BS) with 315/60-15 BFG Comp T/A Drag Radials; Fronts = 15x7 (3.5" BS) with 215/70-15 BFG Radial T/A Radials.

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Re: Ralley Wheels and Trim Rings?
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2007 - 03:43:54 PM »
Ah yes, i remember the "whats wrong with this pic" post!

BTW film...love the way your car sits! Looks great.

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Re: Ralley Wheels and Trim Rings?
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2007 - 01:33:44 AM »
I'm feeling as if the thought of going with Rallye wheels might not be the best choice for my situation. There does not seem to be a solution to my trim ring dilema on a 12" wide wheel with a 7.5" back-space.  Someone on another forum mentioned maybe trying Corvette trim rings since they're deeper.  Although he did say it goes against everything Mopar (and I tend to agree).  However, I could scrap the Rally wheel idea and go for some cool aftermarket stuff.  I do want to stick with 15" diameter with 7" front and 12" rear on the width.  Any suggestions on what might be a good choice so I don'r have to deal with trim rings?
1970 Challenger Convertible (JH27N0B); Resto-Mod; 605 HP, 412cid Small Block; Holley 750CFM Carburetor; A-833 23-spline 4-SPD; A-body 8.75 rear-end w/3.55 gears; 3" mini-tub; leaf spring relocation kit with split-leaf mono and Caltracs; American Racing AR500 Wheels, Rears = 15x10 (5.5" BS) with 315/60-15 BFG Comp T/A Drag Radials; Fronts = 15x7 (3.5" BS) with 215/70-15 BFG Radial T/A Radials.

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Re: Rallye Wheels and Trim Rings?
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2007 - 01:59:53 AM »
I have heard of people just sticking stock trim rings on, and the gap isnt noticeable.
But Im not sure if that will work with tires the size you want to be running

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Re: Rallye Wheels and Trim Rings?
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2007 - 02:29:19 AM »
Thanks Andrew.  I wish I could see pictures of what something similar to my situation might look like.  I will continue to ponder the dilema in hopes of discovering a worthy solution.  Any other helpful feedback with real life experiences are creatly appreciated.
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Re: Rallye Wheels and Trim Rings?
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2007 - 02:02:13 PM »
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Re: Rallye Wheels and Trim Rings?
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2007 - 10:49:30 AM »
Right now, I have the 7" wheel trim rings on my 15x10" rallyes.  I don't have a picture right now to send up as my car is tucked away in another garage as I grind and weld my Cuda.  I'll get a pic soon.       As far as trim rings,  I was looking for deeper trim rings to fit my 15x8 rallyes because I didn't like the gap either and never found any. At a swap meet, I found a truck 8-3/4 that was 64" flange to flange and realized that I could get a wider rearend and a deeply backspaced 10" wheel to fit the standard trim ring.    It should work but I haven't tried it.

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Re: Rallye Wheels and Trim Rings?
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2007 - 10:54:50 PM »
Thanks Rob.  My Challenger is fitted with an "A" body 8.75 rear and a leaf spring relocation kit (approx 3").  I'd like to not have to change out the rearend to a wider one and then a deep backspaced 12" wheel just to facilitate a standard trim ring. Besides, I don't believe I could use an E-body rear-end with the relocated leaf springs.  I'd be interested in seeing some photos of your wheels with the trim ring gap on your 15X10" ralleys.
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Re: Rallye Wheels and Trim Rings?
« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2007 - 11:22:11 PM »
Ralleys would be sweet, I'm sure you have already concidered having custome trim rings made?  Good luck.

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Re: Rallye Wheels and Trim Rings?
« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2007 - 11:26:13 PM »
Could you post any pics of the minitubs? Especially around the rear of the tubs where they go by the longitudinals "frame" and the front spring hangers ?

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Re: Rallye Wheels and Trim Rings?
« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2007 - 09:59:26 AM »
You go with a 15" rear wheel and stock trim ring and just increase your backspacing to give a stock side appearance but a mean all business rear end appeal.  Then again the balloon tire look is something to consider.






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Re: Rallye Wheels and Trim Rings?
« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2007 - 10:03:47 AM »
I like the way it looks now and wouldnt change a thing     :grinyes: :2cents: ::thumbsup: