Shaker Hood Tristar (Triad) Ornament?

[filmsurgeon]

Does anyone know where I can get a Tristar (I think Triad is correct too) Shaker Hood Ornament (Emblem)?  I'm having trouble finding one.  Are these being repopped or is Mopar reproducing these like a lot of other emblems for retsoration?  I remeber seeing some for sale a while ago, but now I can't find any.  Thanks.

[Bullitt-]

This is a brand new reproduction emblem. Fits on the sail panels (back of the roof) 67-69 Dart, 65 Coronet fenders, and 70 71 Challenger hood without lettering. Has 2 pins on the back with part number 2449932   
Price:  $24.99 


non Mopar reproduction at http://www.mopar9999.com/fcstore/showdetail.aspx?PID=138

[filmsurgeon]

So, here are some images of my hood.  This is how the previous owner restored/modified the car.  It was not an original shaker hood car.  What I've been told is that I have an 'original' shaker hood on this car (not a flat hood converted to a shaker).  I know original shaker hood cars were extremely rare in 1970.  1971 also had a rare occurrence of shaker hoods as well.  What's interesting is that this hood does NOT have the evidence of a location for the Triad (Tristar) emblem.  Other Shaker and Flat Hoods I've seen pictures of have the raised triangular shape for the Triad/Tristar emblem.  My hood does not.  I don't know if the previous had this altered on the hood.  Can anyone clarify this?  Is this a 71 or 70 hood?  Is there evidence of the crumple zones?  It doesn't look like I have the proper hood for the Triad/Tristar emblem.  What's the deal?  Thanx

[ksierens]

It looks like there are crumple zones so it is probably a late 70 or 71 hood.  I have the same, though there is an emblem in the front.

[moparclown]

crumple zones and no place to mount the emblem,(the triangle hump)heres a pic of my flat hood

[ChallengerGary]

Looks like your hood originally had the DODGE letering on the front.  I think I see evidence of the holes that may have been filled (could be wrong kind of hard to tell on a little computer screen).  As far as if it is an original Shaker hood, not sure.   That said,  it is definitely not a 1970 hood as evidence by the crumple zones.

[Green Drop Top]

I'm 100% sure that the hood above is not a factory hood, there are many subtle clues but the spot welds are one of the biggest ones, they are nothing like the factory welds. If you post some better pics of the two front corner areas (close ups) I can offer more tips. Also, the two wells in the front corners of the Under Brace are not correctly shaped, the large fixturing/drain holes are missing, and the under brace lacks the Challenger unique features. It's a hood built from one of my competitors hood kit parts, they only sell the Cuda style under brace with thier Challenger shaker kits, they don't make the unique Challenger Brace.

That being said, there were some factory Shaker hoods in that style, they were produced in late 1971 and only a handful actually made it onto a production line car, many more were then sold over the counter, likely as replacement hoods.

[FM3V6M]

Original Shaker Challengers had the Tristar both for '70 and '71, flat hooded non-R/T's had them also.  If yours does not have the Tristar, then it is an over the counter replacement hood from MOPAR, these did not have the Tristar emblem.

[Green Drop Top]

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Original Shaker Challengers had the Tristar both for '70 and '71, flat hooded non-R/T's had them also.  If yours does not have the Tristar, then it is an over the counter replacement hood from MOPAR, these did not have the Tristar emblem.

A couple years ago I would have agreed with you but I have since seen 2 original documented examples of 1971 Challengers that did come with the flat front/non Tri-Star hoods from the factory, however, many more were sold over the counter as you said. The hood above was definately made from a kit, either Gene Gregory's or Ben Snobars, either of them are easy to spot as reproductions. It's definately not one of the factory originals.

 

[71bigblock]

Guys, its called a "fratzog"   

[Green Drop Top]

Guys, its called a "fratzog"   

 

Not to be confused with a "Plodge"

 

[Alaskan_TA]

Named by a Dodge stylist with a sense of humor. 

[filmsurgeon]

Here are some other photos of the hood.  Also some info from 'Parts Interchange Manual' regarding hood emblems/ornaments.  The car was restored in 2003.  It did not originally have a Shaker Hood.  The previous owner chose to do an R/T clone with a base Challenger convertible. http://www.carmancustom.com/projectsCurrent1970ChallengerConv.htm
Why would the the underside of the front of the hood have the cut-outs for the D.O.D.G.E lettering?  Did all the Challenger hoods have this, regardless of style?  When did the flat hood (w/o the raised triangle for tri-star mounting) come into production?  What year Challengers would have come with these?  Thanks much for the help and feedback.

[Green Drop Top]

1. ALL Challenger Shaker Hood Shaker Under Braces had a step in this area to accommodate the unique Challenger style hood under bracing, this one lacks the step.
2. All Shaker Hoods (Challenger & Cuda) have a 1/4" hole in this area to allow for water drain
3. The "well" areas in the corners of the Under Brace on GG & BS hood parts are too small in the bottom area and are less defined, not an obvious difference to most but it's measurably difference from original and easy to see once you are familiar with them.
4. Challenger and Cuda Under Braces are unique in this area, the steps you see in the circled area are INCHES different between Cuda and Challenger, this one is a Cuda style.
5. The factory Under Hood Braces for both Cuda & Challenger have "wrinkles" in these areas, they vary in thier severity but are always evident in original hoods, yours lacks any at all.
6. The spot welds are tiny (pencil eraser sized or so) originals were easily twice this size and were more washed out looking, not pin pointed like yours. This is common with assembled reproduction hoods because todays low cost hand held spot welders do not leave the same large "Foot Print" of the industrial spot welders the factories used back in the day, most convincing conversions are performed with some other welding method like plug welding and filling to cosmetically duplicate the original look, this builder did not go to that extreme and it shows.


There are some other details I can't point out because I'd need a head on picture of the entire under hood to do so. At any rate, as I posted above, what you have there is deffinately a reproduction.

[Challenger6pak]

At any rate, as I posted above, what you have there is deffinately a reproduction.

  It still has holes in it from a 72 up hood latch.   It is a 72-74 flat hood that has been made into a shaker.