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Re: New "STEEL" shaker hood repo..
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2007 - 08:36:57 PM »
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Only 3 types of steel hoods on Barracudas
1970- no crumple zones no "Plymouth" emblem (of course that's because the "Plymouth" is in the grille)
1970-  later style with crumple zones no "Plymouth" emblem
1971-1974 with crumple zones with "Plymouth" emblem

Only one style of crumple zones

All styles of Steel hoods bracing is similar weather it be Rallye, Shaker or flat but the bracing is cut differently depending on the scoops.

AAR Fiberglass hoods not included
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Re: New "STEEL" shaker hood repo..
« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2007 - 08:45:10 PM »
so that steel repop hood is $1000? and the remaining stuff needed to finish it is $2500?

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Re: New "STEEL" shaker hood repo..
« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2007 - 08:45:27 PM »
what is a crumple hood?

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Re: New "STEEL" shaker hood repo..
« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2007 - 09:03:00 PM »
Here's a pic.

Hoods are designed to "crumple" on impact.  A common problem on GM cars around the same time was they made the crumple zones too weak and the hood would bend when someone put too much pressure trying to close them

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Re: New "STEEL" shaker hood repo..
« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2007 - 09:35:50 PM »
so that steel repop hood is $1000? and the remaining stuff needed to finish it is $2500?

As far as I know, the hood is complete. If you're going for a shaker hood conversion, the "$2,500" is a compulsory part of this conversion. That is for the bubble, air cleaner, cables, doors, etc, etc. The hood is either the 3 piece kit Harms sell and a flat hood or these "new" reproduction hoods. I'm keen for either way and am more curious than anything else as to how these new repros will turn out.


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Re: New "STEEL" shaker hood repo..
« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2007 - 10:29:00 PM »

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Only 3 types of steel hoods on Barracudas
1970- no crumple zones no "Plymouth" emblem (of course that's because the "Plymouth" is in the grille)
1970-  later style with crumple zones no "Plymouth" emblem
1971-1974 with crumple zones with "Plymouth" emblem

Only one style of crumple zones

All styles of Steel hoods bracing is similar weather it be Rallye, Shaker or flat but the bracing is cut differently depending on the scoops.

AAR Fiberglass hoods not included

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Re: New "STEEL" shaker hood repo..
« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2007 - 06:09:39 AM »
 :clapping: thanks i knew about the "plymouth" emblem but i never knew about the crumple creases good to know

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Re: New "STEEL" shaker hood repo..
« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2007 - 06:41:12 AM »
Shaker hoods look really good. But looking back in the day, I can remember a few complaints and problems that came along.

If you developed a fuel leak, it could cause a very bad problem trying to get to it quickly.
Changing out valve cover gaskets .
Engine maintenance.

The shaker setup doesn't just come right off with the turn of 1 wing nut. And 3 carbs, 2 carbs and hp carbs need regular checkups. Everything about your engine is under that shaker so to speak.

I just remember being in the real world with shakers and they seemed to be troublesome to most people. Motor mounts breaking caused havok on them in some cases.

If your always under your hood and doing something to your car, a shaker may not be for you. Show cars and weekend cruising is ok, but running them regularly and beating on the engine, a shaker can be a nightmare.
Kinda like a high maintenance woman. You have to pay to play.
Just remember, a shaker covers the whole top of an engine. It swallows a small block and hides everything.

Sometimes people get caught up in the glammor and just want something unique.  I love the looks of a shaker setup, but from past experiences I have found out that you really don't get excited about them when you have to pull them down to work on the engine. So in laymans terms, if you purchase a shaker, don't up and sell your sport hood, you may just want to put it back on one day.

The filler cars are the cars of today. The hp cars were hammered down on and usually the first to get wrecked, blown up, burnt up and junked or parked in the back of the property. Most hp cars from the past are the low mileage cars of today. They carved the muscle trail of glory but it took it's toll and paid a price.

Not sure if my post made sense or not, I just want everyone to set back and look at the flip side, so as to not just go out and spend big money on something they may end up selling sooner then they thought.
 


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Re: New "STEEL" shaker hood repo..
« Reply #23 on: July 09, 2007 - 07:27:14 AM »
Al, made sense to me!   :grinyes:

Good post.   :thumbsup:

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Re: New "STEEL" shaker hood repo..
« Reply #24 on: July 09, 2007 - 10:14:51 AM »
Moparal... I was thinking of that exact thign this weekend when working on my Challenger.

I was getting irritated by having to repeatedly remove my Six-Pack cleaner in between making adjustments and test driving the car.

The thought "Wow. I'm glad I don't have a Shaker right now!" went through my mind.

I'm still gonna get one, though. They are just too bad ass. :-)
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Re: New "STEEL" shaker hood repo..
« Reply #25 on: July 09, 2007 - 10:16:49 AM »
:clapping: thanks i knew about the "plymouth" emblem but i never knew about the crumple creases good to know
:iagree: Very educating thread. Good job guys! :clapping:
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Re: New "STEEL" shaker hood repo..
« Reply #26 on: July 09, 2007 - 10:27:28 AM »
Shaker hood copies seem to be coming out of the woodwork, but does anyone repop the bubbles, bases, doors, etc for a decent price and good quality? It seems absurd to be able to buy or make the whole hood for around $1k, but then have to pay $2k-$3k for the rest of the stuff. Some of the guys like Harms, and these new guys doing the whole hoods need to think about that. If the rest of the stuff is too expensive or too hard to find, no one is going to buy the hoods. Maybe they should offer a complete package for $1500-$2000. I'd be interested in something like that for sure!

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Re: New "STEEL" shaker hood repo..
« Reply #27 on: July 09, 2007 - 10:35:30 AM »
One day someone might offer a complete package for 3k, but it will never be below that, because there are too many other parts. THere is a person on ebay who offers a complete setup for 4200, with a finished hood but that is it.
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Re: New "STEEL" shaker hood repo..
« Reply #28 on: July 09, 2007 - 10:43:24 AM »
EFI is the perfect candidate for induction if you're going to go Shaker.

Once it's dialed in, nothing else to mess with! :2thumbs:
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Re: New "STEEL" shaker hood repo..
« Reply #29 on: July 09, 2007 - 11:09:31 AM »
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Shaker hood copies seem to be coming out of the woodwork, but does anyone repop the bubbles, bases, doors, etc for a decent price and good quality? It seems absurd to be able to buy or make the whole hood for around $1k, but then have to pay $2k-$3k for the rest of the stuff. Some of the guys like Harms, and these new guys doing the whole hoods need to think about that. If the rest of the stuff is too expensive or too hard to find, no one is going to buy the hoods. Maybe they should offer a complete package for $1500-$2000. I'd be interested in something like that for sure!

With cost cutting comes quality cutting in almost every instance. There are less expensive Shaker parts available right now, but don't expect them to match the quality of the original parts because they don't even come close (Most are fiberglass rather than steel, etc.).

The problem is that few of the Shaker componants are inexpensive to tool up for or to produce (small volume production runs of most anything cost a premium), that combined with a rather small market/demand equals a high price, in the end someone has to pay for the tooling and production costs and last time I checked it's not easy staying in business taking a loss on what you sell.

All of that being said, there MIGHT be light at the end of the tunnel for some componants, I heard a rumor that PG Classics is looking into doing a steel base plate, adapter ring, and a few other of the high cost items, they are known to be a low cost vendor but lately I've noticed that thier prices have taken a dramatic increase so the quality and the price of what they MIGHT start offering is still to be seen.

As far as Harms is concerned it's a high risk venture to build tooling for a product that is already being produced by two or more different vendors (with acceptable quality) so you won't see anything else from us in the way of Shaker componants. We currently send everyone to Gene Gregory/Art Pacheco @ Six Pack Performance for everything but the hood itself, they have the best parts available anywhere when it comes to under hood componants. If you want lower price/quality there are many other sources (which I list on our instructional Shaker conversion CD).



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