Steering box options

[ShelbyDogg]

Did you count the turns lock to lock to see if it is the 20:1 box instead of the 26:1?  The standard box was 3-1/2 turns lock to lock.

[EvilTwinATX]

Ok today I opened my box with my gear box in and thought I would check the numbers on the box for some reason. Sure enough the numbers were not the  276515 for the cop car box instead the number for the regular box. I call up the carquest I got it from and they said that was the replacement number the other number was no longer used. So I went to the local salvage yard and found a couple of cars that could be candidates. What years/ models were used as cop cars? Is there a letter in the vin to help id them?

70ChallengerRT.. what numbers did you check? the box I got mine it had the exact part # I ordered on it...It is actually an A1Cardone part and from what I was told for some reason they are hard to come by. the year
I looked up was actually for 1989 Dodge Diplomat SE Cop car....
Here is the link directly to the part on the mfg's website.

Shelby, I dont have the box hooked up so i cannot check the # of turns lock to lock.

[70challengerrt]

The gear box I ordered was for a 89 diplomat police car. I only have a carquest close. I looked online a napa.com and it looks like they can still get it. I didn't look how many turns it takes. How many should my stock box have? How many will the police box have?

[HP2]

The turning lock to lock turn doesn't change. The internal valving removes the overassist that is normally associated with mopar power steering.

[ShelbyDogg]

I guess it was the longer pitman arm that caused my count to come up 2-1/2 turns in my friend's T/A.   

So the firm feel or Cop box just makes it harder to turn and doesn't change the ratio like the new set of gears available from Direct<>Connection?

Rob

[Bullitt-]

I guess it was the longer pitman arm that caused my count to come up 2-1/2 turns in my friend's T/A.  

So the firm feel or Cop box just makes it harder to turn and doesn't change the ratio like the new set of gears available from Direct<>Connection?


Rob

All the gear upgrades I've seen are for maunal boxes  NOT PS

[EvilTwinATX]

I guess it was the longer pitman arm that caused my count to come up 2-1/2 turns in my friend's T/A.   

So the firm feel or Cop box just makes it harder to turn and doesn't change the ratio like the new set of gears available from Direct<>Connection?

Rob

The pitman arm is what adjusted the # of turns (quick ratio).... not the gears in the box itself.

[ShelbyDogg]

All the gear upgrades I've seen are for maunal boxes  NOT PS

Thanks for clearing that up Bullit.

Thanks Evil, that's what I thought.

Rob

[MJS73]

All the gear upgrades I've seen are for maunal boxes  NOT PS

I have power steering and a Firm Feel box.

mike

[Bullitt-]

I have power steering and a Firm Feel box.

mike

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All the gear upgrades I've seen are for maunal boxes  NOT PS

this was in reference to the quicker ratio worm gears available for manual boxes

[70challengerrt]

I found a mid 70's Plymouth fury but could not find any grand furys. Would a fury be the same?

[chevyconvert]

my mom had a '72 gran fury new and the power steering was way over assisted with zero feedback.
(but it was faster than the monte carlo's ;0) so i wouldn't get one of those boxes.

[miker71]

Okay .. I did the measurements and the boxes are the exact same! Only very minor differences.. and nothing that should affect fitment. So I am very happy .. I drove plumcrazychris's Challenger briefly and the steering was very nice.

As far as the pitman arm you should be able to order a large sector pitman from Advanced or any autoparts place for between 30 to 75 bucks.. I am going to get a new one. My orginal one is shot.

EvilTwinATX,
  OK, So if I have a '71 Cuda, and I want to put in the '89 Diplomat Police box (#276515), all I will need to do is order a Pitman arm for a '73 Cuda, and everything should swap & fit right in place of my old box & pitman arm?
Thanks,
miker71   

[EvilTwinATX]

Miker71 - I ordered the pitman arm for the 89 Diplomat... and it was a dead match for the one that was one the car previously. The only difference was that the toothed opening that fit onto the gear box shaft was a hair bigger ... I had tried to use the original pitman arm from my old box but it was a little too small to fit on the new box.
But like I said I used my old arm as a reference and other than that it seemed to be the exact same part.

So to make a long story short...yes, I believe you can buy a matching box and pitman arm for a 89 Dippy Police Package car and it should bolt right in. 

Note: I haven't tried the steering column coupler yet.. they looked the same, but I didnt have one handy to try. If you are switching from a manual steering car to a power steering car you will have to address that issue as well.

I should know within the next couple of weeks if this whole thing is going to work out. I dont see any issue though as my friend Chris has done this a few times on his cars.

[miketyler]