Holley Choke Gaaaaaak

[tooch]

how come you can get a brand new drain hose assembly for a hemi shaker basepan but I cant find a 1970 383 auto holley choke assembly. thats all,,, I'm done crying -Tooch
thank you I feel better now, but I really would like the choke thermostat

[Challenger6pak]

Why is this choke different than any other choke?

[Moparal]

CAR Quest sells them.   They can get a lot of hard to find stuff if you ask them.

[tooch]

the question was why is this differant. ithought the same thing 2 years ago when i started this quest. the carter choke stats,theres 3-4 of them have rods that go nowhere near the holley butterfly. the 2 holley chokes for differant apps i tried interfere with the carb itself and will not allow an install. now, that being said its only the dome that hits the carb, I have seen choke stats that are almost flat and others with an imperfect dome,kind of a flattened spot. i feel thats the one i need .there are dozens for sale,but never a listing for 383 with the holley. i cant be the only guy needing this stat for day to day driving.it just seems to be the only one not repopped  -Tooch

[Challenger6pak]

What is your carb listing number?  I have around 50 Holleys here.  I might have the carb you need.

[tooch]

Ok,the question is what is my carb number?, I think.  the 383 is wearing the Holley 4218-3 4bbl. 48 state,cleaner air,automatic air conditioning. this carb is easy to spot because of the little air door flappy bimetal temperature sensitive,supposed to compensate for the hot ,rich when sitting air inlet door on the side of the carb. pfheww. now,....I dont need a carb,I need the choke themostat that controls the carb.if you look at the 383/holley application the secondaries shaft is about an inch and a half above the choke well in the manifold,and this is where the interferance occurs with every replacement attempt i've made. I'm thinking now to try and deform one i've got[just the dome covering the bimetal spring] ,but I should't have to . these things should be laying around by the thousands,darn if I can find one,   thanks, -Tooch

[Bullitt-]

does this look close?  says for 340 & 383 AVS but it's flat.   

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mopar-Carter-AVS-A-B-E-Body-340-383-440-Choke-Assembly_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ10076QQihZ007QQitemZ170109592721

[Challenger6pak]

From what I can tell you have a California 1970 auto trans 585 CFM carb.  Is this the right carb for your car?  It would be correct for a California 383 1970 Challenger.  If so, I believe your car should have been built in LA.  JOE23N?

[tooch]

Hi 6pak, I appreciate the quick get back, I was hoping when I started this thread I'd be surprised with 6 nos choke stats,but i'm beginning to think theres a reason for the difficulty in finding a replacement.  the car was produced sept 3 '69 at the hamtramck facility . it was a dodge produced [unsold,unordered] parade vehicle bound for a missouri dealership to show off what was coming out for the new model year. I dont consider it  "special" but it does have 30 odd options. But, I dont consider the standard drivetrain one of them. I feel the 383 /holley combo was equally produced with the carters.  Also, thanks to the supplier of the avs link and pic on ebay, but the carter rod doesnt quite make the trip ,even though i could probably swap the control rod into the flat carter thermostat, can anyone chime in with a holley topper. at this point, I would really dig a photo of a proper choke thermostat on a 70 383 just to see which dome covers the choke well, and doesnt interfere with the secondaries shaft casting, just so i can target a proper purchase. I guess i could start the 40 year old part number shuffle too just to see if some clone is produced. hey,just an afterthought,do they make a bolt on electric for those Holleys?  thanks again -Tooch

[Challenger6pak]

I would start checking with Holley.

[FY1Challenger]

If i'm understanding you correctly the problem is the linkage rod fit and the interference betwwen the choke dome and the carb. The flat cover choke is for 68/69 intake with the cast choke well, not the 70 intake manifold. OK, assuming the above is correct what you are looking for is indeed the Holley equivilent of the domed Carter AVS choke. Sorry for not posting a pic but I do have a Holley choke and will be happy to get the number of the box for you. The issue with the dome clearance and the carb casting is probably b/c the carb base gasket you're using is to thin. The factory gasket was a little over a 1/4" thick and the Carter has interference issues too if the thin style base gasket is used. There used to be a guy in Augusta, GA, Merv Harden, that sold these chokes on e-bay, that's where I was able to get mine. Frank Badalson/Roger Gibson sell the correct thick base gasket.

[Challenger6pak]

tooch, post a pic of your problem.  It will help us figure it out.  Thanks.

[tooch]

okee,dokee, Ijust took pics,thanks for feedback---6pak and FY1, but if this was easy, the girls would do this stuff. no I dont want to use carter stuff, the base plate is 5/16 dodge , and I'm pretty sure of the choke i need just cant find one. it will have a dome, and a D shaped base to match the manifold well, and I havent been in a boneyard in 5 years,I think thats about to change. heck the headlite bezel was easier. heres the pics,and once again,,,, 10-Q   Tooch

[tooch]

just had to throw this in, I was posting the pics for the holley and choke thermostat and once the pics were blown-up I notice the voltage regulator  had what I would consider a catastrophic failure..  notice goo-goo drip  -Tooch

[Bullitt-]

I notice the voltage regulator  had what I would consider a catastrophic failure..  notice goo-goo drip  -Tooch

Not that it won't require replacing but age seems to have as much to do with the meltdown as anything, I had an OE ignition box in storage as well as a voltage regulator on the car do the same while no power was connected.