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Re: Engine loses power around 5000RPM
« Reply #45 on: January 27, 2008 - 11:26:18 PM »
You could check them with an ohm meter before dropping the coin.




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Re: Engine loses power around 5000RPM
« Reply #46 on: January 27, 2008 - 11:39:01 PM »
You could check them with an ohm meter before dropping the coin.

Okay, I have an ohm meter.  What kind of range am I looking for?
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Re: Engine loses power around 5000RPM
« Reply #47 on: January 28, 2008 - 02:23:57 AM »
Regular carbon core should be 10-20,000 ohms , spiral core will be much less

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Re: Engine loses power around 5000RPM
« Reply #48 on: January 28, 2008 - 03:14:20 AM »
When you are driving the car and get to 5000 revs does the car feel like it is falling on its face and wont go any faster ?


If this is the case, it may be that your springs have gone off.
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Re: Engine loses power around 5000RPM
« Reply #49 on: January 28, 2008 - 09:09:00 AM »
I have no idea what Honda products use but we used to ohm them out at 25,000 ohms.

So with what Chryco said (10-20,000ohms) and what I said, at the very worst, unless someone else can chime in, I wouldn't want anything past 25,000 ohms.  :2cents:
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Re: Engine loses power around 5000RPM
« Reply #50 on: January 29, 2008 - 02:15:01 AM »
Regular carbon core should be 10-20,000 ohms , spiral core will be much less

Okay thanks   :2thumbs:


I have no idea what Honda products use but we used to ohm them out at 25,000 ohms.

So with what Chryco said (10-20,000ohms) and what I said, at the very worst, unless someone else can chime in, I wouldn't want anything past 25,000 ohms.  :2cents:

Good to know thanks   :2thumbs:



When you are driving the car and get to 5000 revs does the car feel like it is falling on its face and wont go any faster ?

If this is the case, it may be that your springs have gone off.

It feels almost like it has hit a rev limiter and last time I drove it it felt like it skipped a little.  Either way the tach acts wierd at that RPM.  I doubt the springs are the problem, suppose to be good for a much higher lift cam.
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Re: Engine loses power around 5000RPM
« Reply #51 on: January 29, 2008 - 09:12:09 AM »
Hey jacksboys, I was wondering what's the condition of the other ignition componenets like the ECU, ballast resistor, distributor?  Did you say you changed the cap and rotor?  :clueless:  Are they fairly new?  When you said it hits like a rev limiter, I was thinking ignition stuff.
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Re: Engine loses power around 5000RPM
« Reply #52 on: January 29, 2008 - 01:06:13 PM »
Hey jacksboys, I was wondering what's the condition of the other ignition componenets like the ECU, ballast resistor, distributor?  Did you say you changed the cap and rotor?  :clueless:  Are they fairly new?  When you said it hits like a rev limiter, I was thinking ignition stuff.

I am pretty sure it is the ignition but not sure what part yet.

The ECU is new, but I have a spare I might try at some point.  I got the distributor from my father, but it did the same thing on another distributer I tried first with a new cap and rotor, so I would not guess that is the problem.  The ballast resister is also new, but I may try that soon since they are cheap.  Otherwise I have no clue what it could be.   :dunno:

I did notice that after the engine is fully heated and I have taken it for a long drive, the problem sometimes happens at a lower RPM, around 4500. Any clues?   :1zhelp:
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Re: Engine loses power around 5000RPM
« Reply #53 on: January 29, 2008 - 01:10:16 PM »
Do you have a vented distributor cap? If not, you might consider drilling some smallish (1/8") holes in at least four places around the cap, above the rotor line. I seem to recall something in the Engine book about the build up of ozone in a dsitributor cap that can lead to spark scatter. The holes allow venting to relieve the build up. If nothing else, it is a no buck change that may or may not help.

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Re: Engine loses power around 5000RPM
« Reply #54 on: January 29, 2008 - 01:13:05 PM »
If it seems spark AND heat related, I would try that spare ECU.  BTW, If I were you, I would have a spare ballast resistor in the glovebox.  They are cheap, and walking sucks. :2cents:
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Re: Engine loses power around 5000RPM
« Reply #55 on: January 29, 2008 - 01:14:56 PM »
Do you have a vented distributor cap? If not, you might consider drilling some smallish (1/8") holes in at least four places around the cap, above the rotor line. I seem to recall something in the Engine book about the build up of ozone in a dsitributor cap that can lead to spark scatter. The holes allow venting to relieve the build up. If nothing else, it is a no buck change that may or may not help.

I know it was one of the Mopar Performance distributors, but not sure on the vents.  I would rather not drill into a perfectly good cap.  Any other ideas?
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Re: Engine loses power around 5000RPM
« Reply #56 on: January 29, 2008 - 01:15:57 PM »
If it seems spark AND heat related, I would try that spare ECU.  BTW, If I were you, I would have a spare ballast resistor in the glovebox.  They are cheap, and walking sucks. :2cents:


When I get some more free time I will try the ECU.  I have been planning to get another resistor for a while.   :2thumbs:
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Re: Engine loses power around 5000RPM
« Reply #57 on: January 30, 2008 - 12:14:33 PM »
When I get some more free time I will try the ECU.  I have been planning to get another resistor for a while.   :2thumbs:

As you may already know, make sure that it is well grounded.  :grinyes:

Will a regular local parts store cap work on a Mopar performance ditributor?  I think SB distributors that I've had in the past had a little vent built into the top of the cap.

HP2 raises a good point about spark scatter.  Not all caps are created equal.  My friend has an MSD distributor on his Shelby Cobra and he had a lot of corrosion issues from his cap not being vented and condensation forming inside.  He picked up I think a regular Motorcraft cap and his problem is solved since the new cap was vented.
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Re: Engine loses power around 5000RPM
« Reply #58 on: January 31, 2008 - 01:01:49 PM »
I will try to double check the cap for a vent this weekend.  I have just been really busy this week.
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Re: Engine loses power around 5000RPM
« Reply #59 on: January 31, 2008 - 05:36:08 PM »
I'm sure it's electrical, but this can be maddening.   :pullinghair: It could be something as simple as an old original wire having higher resistance than it should, or a connection that is a little loose, or has some corrosion. I'm sorry I can't suggest anything at this point.   :walkaway:


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