1975 Cuda / Challenger

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1975 Cuda / Challenger
« on: August 08, 2007 - 11:04:47 PM »
Anyone else pick up the Popular Hot Rodding mag from this past month???  (last months cover is already gone from the phr site but the 1975 cuda is on the top edge of the magzine if you can still find it at the stores)

Totally awsome pictures of what the Cuda and Challenger proto-type cars for 1975 that never made production but they were made. I have to scan some pictures as I have not ever seen these pics on the net before.

Anyone else see these pictures and read the sad story about the end of a great run for the cuda/challenger that was 1974?



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Re: 1975 Cuda / Challenger
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2007 - 11:08:15 PM »
LOL I bet a 75 'Cuda or Challenger prototype might be worth a ton of money unless it looks like that horrid 80's charger/cuda pic posted last week or the even more hideous import Challenger  :puke:
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Re: 1975 Cuda / Challenger
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2007 - 11:14:21 PM »
It actually looked like a cross between a Ferrari 308 and a 70's cuda. Glass looked that same for the drivers door and quarter glass on one picture. The rear lights looked like a 1970 cuda but newer look. The nose came to a point like a Ferrari, I would say like a super bird but it wasn't that big.

I guess they were built in late 1969 for the mid run of 1970's (Mentioned a 4 year lead time).

The part that killed me was that they stated they were bringing back from a board review and they ended up dropping one of the proto-types of a lift which totally damaged the car. Which was par for the course as the product line was being axed due to gas prices and rising insurance costs.  :banghead:

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« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2007 - 12:27:33 AM »
The part that killed me was that they stated they were bringing back from a board review and they ended up dropping one of the proto-types of a lift which totally damaged the car.

No big deal though because they were just plywood and clay design bucks. I think the real reason they were killed (as well as the whole ponycar line) is because nobody wanted ponys anymore.  Kanearo and Ferberd lines were almost dead as were Rustangs compared to other years.  People wanted Pintos and Rustang IIs and Chrysler was going too cheap to bother with having a top of the line performance car.
They really missed the boat because by '76 Ferberds and TandAs were selling like hotcakes and that lasted past 1980.  Kameros were taking off too but those F-bodies were the only game in town for 2+2s.
Maybe Mopar could have saved the company if they had stuck with a performance lineup but it was not to be....

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Re: 1975 Cuda / Challenger
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2007 - 11:18:52 AM »
No big deal though because they were just plywood and clay design bucks. I think the real reason they were killed (as well as the whole ponycar line) is because nobody wanted ponys anymore. 

These didn't look like clay to me in the pictures. They looked like 1970 cudas remodeled for the the final product testing for the1975 line up. Got to get my scanner working. You will like the pictures.

Anyone else see the pictures and article in popular hot rodding?

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Re: 1975 Cuda / Challenger
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2007 - 12:02:44 PM »
There wa a thread on the '75 Cuda on this site not too long a go.  I'm not sure if it's from the magazine that you mentioned though.  Interesting info though.  :thumbsup:
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Re: 1975 Cuda / Challenger
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2007 - 02:24:00 PM »
These didn't look like clay to me in the pictures. They looked like 1970 cudas remodeled for the the final product testing for the1975 line up. Got to get my scanner working. You will like the pictures.

Hmmm,,  :clueless:  I haven't seen the popular hot rodding article yet but here are some pics of the Next gen 'CUDA that I am aware of.  Basicly each side of this clay is different and when Mopar wanted to take pics of a whole car they just put a big mirror in the middle so they could take 3/4 shots.
I believe all three of these pics are of the same car with different details changed for the designers to look at
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Re: 1975 Cuda / Challenger
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2007 - 02:30:14 PM »
There's a whole section about the '75 and later Cuda/Challengers in this book.  I was reading about 'em last night on the crapper.

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Re: 1975 Cuda / Challenger
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2007 - 03:01:47 PM »
I haven't seen that one. Does it have lots of pics?

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« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2007 - 03:55:21 PM »
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Re: 1975 Cuda / Challenger
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2007 - 04:56:13 PM »
The pictures are okay, nothing spectacular, but worth having in your collection if you're a E-body nut!!

http://www.amazon.com/Barracuda-Challenger-Muscle-Color-History/dp/0879385383/ref=sr_1_5/104-6254299-6719123?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1186692592&sr=1-5

They're at Amazon, couple of used ones for $2.50!!

Check out the table of contents, lists the 1975 era chapter.

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Re: 1975 Cuda / Challenger
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2007 - 09:07:27 PM »
No big deal though because they were just plywood and clay design bucks. I think the real reason they were killed (as well as the whole ponycar line) is because nobody wanted ponys anymore. 

360 you and I were both right, I finally got a chance to read the whole article. Many were made of clay, those you listed and then there were others that were not. I have included one that was not (found a pic on the net that matched the article).

Cudas, much like road runners and any large V8 car fell under the gun for Ma Mopar because of rising insurance for their performance line up and gas prices. However if you look at production numbers for a model line up like the cuda, they were selling better than earlier 1970s models when the line up was discontinued (just look at the production numbers). You can say they decided to kill their performance line up in its prime. No one will ever know if they had just continued producing cudas, road runners, darts, chargers, etc. that they wouldn't have had such a bad run in the late 70s.





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Re: 1975 Cuda / Challenger
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2007 - 09:13:10 PM »



Wow that pic looks like a Barravega but I bet it would be worth a mint today.



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Re: 1975 Cuda / Challenger
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2007 - 09:26:27 PM »
 I've had lit. on these cars for 15 years and have never seen or read anything on one that had ever been built. IT would be kool though.

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Re: 1975 Cuda / Challenger
« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2007 - 09:55:48 PM »
Wow that pic looks like a Barravega but I bet it would be worth a mint today.

Thats totally what I was telling my co-workers today. Totally a vega front. I was hoping more for the ones that looked like a Ferrari.

I still have to scan in some of those other pictures. There is one that shows a very nice looking 70ish looking rear end but very modern looking.