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Offline JH27N0B

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Project: back on track?
« on: September 04, 2007 - 11:50:23 PM »
It looks like my T/A project may actually be moving ahead after way too many years!  It headed off to the shop in MI back when the twin towers were still standing and you could probably track down a hemi cuda for 50K or so.  It started to turn into one of these stalled out resto shop horror stories not long after, the one employee moved on to a better opportunity and wasn't replaced, then the owner went on medical leave to donate a kidney to his dad, further health issues had him working another job while working in the shop part time (which turned out to be no-time), etc etc.  In the meantime I had taken a big loss in the 2000-2002 market crash, job security disappeared (I was an engineer in the automotive part industry until late 2005), eventually leading to a layoff in early 2005, and another late that year leading to my spending most of 2006 collecting unemployment until it ran out.
I resorted to having to tell some of my know-it-little friends and acquaintances I'd sold the project to get them off my back and to stop nagging me about it.  Trying to explain to someone who knows everything, that shopping around for a top level restoration shop, moving a project in 1000 pieces 100's of miles, and commiting to spending 50+K on a project has to go on the back burner when you don't know if your going to be employed next week or next month is like trying to teach a co cker spaniel how to speak French! "Helpful" unsolicited advice really has become a pet peeve too, "You should take your car to that hot rod shop thats doing Bills GTO.  They just got his frame back from the powder coater and looks like factory new!" Yeah, I am sure powder coating will really pile up the points in OE judging.  These are the same people who still refer to my car as a cuda or a Charger so I cannot even think of trying to explain Mopar restoration standards to them.
But a little over a year ago the guy with my car got back going full time.  That got my hopes up but he spent most of his time finishing the car in front of mine. In July I drove 2 hours out of my way during a trip to MI to go to his shop to pick up a couple parts I'd been bugging him to no avail to send me so I could send them off to specialists.  Not much seemed to be happening with my car, which along with him blowing off shipping me the parts left me feeling even more discouraged, but that being said there were only 2 other cars there at the shop beside mine.  One of which was only getting some detailing.  Ironically the other full project is a genuine '67 Shelby Trans Am Mustang race car owned by the former coworker of mine who had introduced me to the shop owner in the first place.  I wonder what he thought about my car still being there after so many years? It obviously didn't discourage him from entrusting his very rare car to that shop.
Then he calls me back in the last week and tells me he is getting the car ready to get off to his media blaster, taking off remaining parts and stripping undercoating etc.  He says my car and the Shelby racer are his only projects going and he is going to be putting full time into these cars this winter!  He told me he wants me to order up the Goodmark quarters as he will get the car back from the stripper around 3 weeks after it goes in, and he wants to work in the quarter panel area first and wants to see the new ones to see what he has to work with before he starts removing any part of the old ones. I guess I am a little jaded after all these years but it sure seems like the project is getting back on track?
My goal has been to get my numbers matching car back to first day at Mr. Norms standards.  The bottom of the car and engine compartment is mostly untouched so we have a lot of documentation to follow to recreate that.
I'll keep posting pictures and updates as time goes on and I hope I'll be posting often!  Keep your fingers crossed for progress to continue on my car and my cash reserves to hold out.  I am coming up on my first anniversary at my new job in a new industry so as long as the paychecks keep coming every 2 weeks I think I can keep up with the bills!!
In the meantime here is a link with more information on my car, a picture of it as it left for the shop way back before electricity had been invented  :lol: and one of it at the shop in early July.
http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=36194.0

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Re: Project: back on track?
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2007 - 11:59:52 PM »
Glad to hear things are starting up. I've been through strange drama at the shop doing my car but i'll explain that in my car's rebuild thread closer to the time when things are coming to a finish point. Patience man, patience :)

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Offline JH27N0B

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Re: Project: back on track?
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2007 - 12:28:54 PM »
I posted a detailed update and photographs around a month back, which all promptly disappeared a week or two later. :pullinghair:
At any rate, progress has continued to be made so certainly the project is indeed "back on track"!  The car was supposed to go into the media blaster back in September, but once he started getting into the car he had a change of plans.  He decided that the rusted areas might cause the car shell to be too weak when it was in the rotissierie at the blasters, so he decided to do some metal work beforehand to build things up.  As he went on with that he just kept at it attacking the rust which unfortunately seems to have attacked every nook and cranny in the car. :'(  He started up front where the cowl area was weak, apparently from water gathering in there after it rained because of clogged up drains.  And the A pillar areas and below into the passenger compartment where a windshield leak had caused water to leak in and do damage over the years.
In recent weeks he has started in on the rear.  The quarters were removed as I have new Goodmarks to replace them.  The trunk pan was in bad shape due to a rear window leak (boy you really learn when you get into a restoration how crappy the build quality was in these cars back in 1970! :banghead:)
I had got a Arizona trunk floor around 6 years back which he has installed, it had the frame rails still on it and he used those for sections to replace the rear spring shackle areas which, you guessed it, were rusty.
The replacement tailight panel will soon be installed, and then just maybe the car will be ready for the media blaster?
It bums me out how much cancer has been found on what was a decent looking car. I am glad I have been patient over the years because my restorer is one of the best in the world in repairing rust damage, it is obvious from the many pictures he keeps sending me that he is not cutting any corners.  When done the car will stronger than the day it was built, and unless I, for some reason, took it out driving on salty winter roads someday in the future, it will never rust and will most likely outlive me! :2thumbs:
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Re: Project: back on track?
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2007 - 12:34:35 PM »
Here's a picture with the trunk and rear frame sections installed, which makes it look just a tad better than that last picture!

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Re: Project: back on track?
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2007 - 12:52:07 PM »
Looks like things are finally moving along. Post pictures from time to time so we can all check out the progress.


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Re: Project: back on track?
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2007 - 04:17:58 PM »
Rust sucks! Its great to see another project on track. Good luck and keep posting pics, that way i can get educated on how to do the repairs on my car. You have a great car and it will be even better when done. :thumbsup:

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Re: Project: back on track?
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2007 - 07:04:28 PM »
Thanks for the kind words.
Here are a couple pictures showing the work on the floor.  Most of my floor is nearly in day one condition.  However water leaking in from the windshield apparently pooled under the carpet in the area just below the brake pedal and that rusted through.  This left a problem.  Goodmark sells nice front floor sections, but I only needed less than 25% of a front floor and it seemed a waste to buy an expensive part just to cut out a little bit to use.  There is also a drivers side front section on the market, but it isn't very accurate as far as the ribbing and such.
He ended up fashioning up correct patches that look very good.  The weld beads will be ground and after prep and finishing I doubt anyone would ever be able to tell this section was repaired.

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Re: Project: back on track?
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2007 - 07:07:40 PM »
Here is a picture of the drivers side A pillar being repaired.
Also a "before" picture of the brake booster mounting area and hood hinge area.

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Re: Project: back on track?
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2007 - 07:09:47 PM »
After shot of the booster mount area and hood hinge, repaired with new metal.

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Re: Project: back on track?
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2007 - 07:29:11 PM »
Glad your project is coming back together!  Keep posting those pic's,, Keeps me motivated!! :2thumbs:
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Re: Project: back on track?
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2007 - 09:43:18 PM »
Pictures look good and the floor patches turned out great. Sometimes it is not worth buying the whole floor section for a small patch.


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Re: Project: back on track?
« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2007 - 05:38:37 PM »
Nice work!It's nice to see pic's of other people doing the same work I'm doing. :2thumbs:
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Re: Project: back on track?
« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2007 - 06:34:40 PM »
Great story, looking forward to watching the progress!

Where in Micigan is it being done?
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« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2007 - 07:49:41 PM »
Great story, looking forward to watching the progress!

Where in Micigan is it being done?

The shop is in the Ferrysburg/Grand Haven area.  Would you believe the shops street number is "340"?!?! Gotta be some kind of Kharma there!  :woo:

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« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2007 - 07:56:42 PM »
 :2thumbs: I wish I lived at 340 Challenger drive!
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