I know I'm not among alot of fans here

[BIGSHCLUNK]

But the lineup for Talledega is unfreakin real!!!!!!!! Only 1 bowtie in the top ten. Congrats to Mikey on getting the pole!! (Toyota has been kikin'a$$ in the truck series)  And MOPAR rounds out the top ten. Give um he11!!!! 

[chevyconvert]

you're really happy to see Toyota (or any other foreign make) above Chevy
or any other American Mfr. that's racing here in our country?


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[bb71challenger]

I dont think Toyota should have been allowed to enter Nascar racing. They dont need another tool to take more market share from American iron. I dont go for the argument that they are built here, where is the profit going?

[Bills70]

I dont think Toyota should have been allowed to enter Nascar racing. They dont need another tool to take more market share from American iron. I dont go for the argument that they are built here, where is the profit going?

I totally agree! and I understand that when they entered F1 they really f'd it up! and some people think they are going to do the same thing to nascar! 

[Ghost]

Nascar has been F'd up ever since they stopped using stock bodied cars.

[torredcuda]

I like seeing the bowties set back a little but Mikeys and idiot and not a very talented driver and driving a Toyoda to boot!Of course at Talladega it doesn`t matter so much where you qualify as how your car drafts so it all could change in a couple laps.It hasn`t been a real good year for the Mopars,seems they are struggling a little?

[DAYTONA]

I dont think Toyota should have been allowed to enter Nascar racing. They dont need another tool to take more market share from American iron. I dont go for the argument that they are built here, where is the profit going?

....my Ram SRT10 was built in Mexico and the profit went to Germany.....I still have a hard time with that one....I am so glad to see Chrysler an American company again...

[ted]

enjoy it as american owned , if it isnt profitable  really quick it will be gone.

[Carlwalski]

I think it's good in a way. America sticks to it's own sports and racing series while the rest of the world plays major sports & racers together. The skill level outside America is far greater (sorry to say). Especially in Europe where 7 year old kids can drive stick shifts and 95% of cars are manual (vice versa for the US).

My point? Toyota being in the cup opens the doors for American racing to get out into the world and compete against the best (yes, with corners) though, that's more for the drivers I guess. Be good to see an American driver in rally racing or F1 or something.

I agree, NASCAR died when the stock looking factory body cars stopped rolling out. Just too fake and corny these days with all cars looking the same. Nascar is boring too LOL round & round & round & round. You could be better off watching a ceiling fan.   

[willhaven]

I dont think Toyota should have been allowed to enter Nascar racing. They dont need another tool to take more market share from American iron.

That's what happens in the free market. Sometimes the other guy does it better. It's the failure of the last couple of decades that will eventually wake up the domestic manufacturers and push them to make a better product that people actually want to buy.

I dont go for the argument that they are built here, where is the profit going?

To the people that make them and manage those factories? Of course a lot of it goes back to Japan as well, but it still creates jobs here. It's not like Ford or GM would be able to hire and support those workers if they weren't working for Toyota.

[bb71challenger]

I agree to a point but when do we stop selling our souls and our country? Yes the Foreign car makers have forced us to look long and hard at the way we did things and we have responded by bringing the quality and longevity of domestic cars way up. I am just saying we should keep some things for ourselves.

[MJS73]

Nascar has been F'd up ever since they stopped using stock bodied cars.

 

What's the difference whether it's Chevy, Toyota or Hyundai?  The "car" is just a couple of stickers to give a sort of appearance.

Mike

[Bullitt-]

Having followed NASCAR since I was a kid in the '70s, as well as any other motor sport that I could have access to, I am discouraged with the series as it has evolved.  Some of the changes were necessary for safety or economics I suppose but for the most part the changes detract from my perspective. A few of the tracks may be more competitive today than in the past but for the most part, and especially the super speedway races, have become follow the leader wreck fests.  On the other hand because of the popularity of NASCAR we have more TV coverage of this & a lot of other motor-sport.
   As for the other series out there F1 is not as entertaining as it used to be, you can almost predict the finish before race weekend & for sure after the 1st corner of the 1st lap....OMG how is this considered a motor-sport, more of a engineering competition.  Nothing even resembling stock in to relate to, at least not in my world.
   Then there is the US open wheel shows..Indy...F&%# Danika, I don't tune in to keep up with her but 3/4 of the commentary seems to be focused on the little 0-win witch....CART....more wreck fests & what's up with this passing button?!?!?. Who is Paul Tracy gonna wreck this weekend....are they even racing this weekend?  Coverage of this series is sparse so it must be dying. Nothin stock here.
   NHRA....they don't turn right.....or left .. or at least they shouldn't.. I'm OK with that..good show if your guy doesn't blow up. Are more than 1/2 the runs actually competitive?   Nothing stock about John Forces "Mustang"
   Best show I see when they have a race is the American Le Mans Series, but their best drivers jump to the higher profile/paying series 1st chance.  Some of their classes are "production based"
   Dirt track open wheel is where its at IMO, short races, lotta power, no Intimidator types can survive as racing clean is what its all about.
   Swamp Buggy Racing is what NZ needs to get into...stock?...maybe not, but they do turn right...LOL...


Ya know every time someone starts b1tching about NASCAR one complaint is that they don't run "STOCK" cars....None of the other series do either so what's the big deal and if the did what could they run(think about it)?  Yea in the 70s & 80s  it was more interesting but I think that is mostly perspective & the personalities involved but for the most part some of you just want to go against the recent success & popularity they are enjoying....
tell me I'm wrong.....Toyota...just have another reason to hate Toney Stewart next year. 

So I'm gonn keep watchin, remembering the old days & pulling for the lead Dodge, or rooting agianst dem bad ole chebby/tayota,drivin a-holes... 

[bb71challenger]

Thinking an American is ever going to be able to get the good factory gigs that the Foreign makers have it kind of laughable. As for skill? Are you kidding me? Sure here most drivers are not used to shifting but to say that the best drivers are foreign again is laugable, the driver pool may be smaller but the playing field is not level either. I am not saying the best drivers are American either, just saying that making a blanket statement That none of the best drivers in the world are American is more than a little bold. BTW the first time I took my 11 year old daughter out to learn to drive it was in my manual shift car. Right away she was taking off on a hill without lugging or killing it. Skill is learned, it does not stop from one border to the next.

[Carlwalski]

As for skill? Are you kidding me? Sure here most drivers are not used to shifting but to say that the best drivers are foreign again is laugable,

Whether you accept it or not it's 100% factual. It was only a "joke" the 7 year old driving thing mate like I would say "Ray Charles could paint better" etc. Are you kidding me? It makes a HUGE difference. With 95% (or close to it, in the 90s anyhow) of a country driving autos it leaves a little pocket of manual drivers, correct? So, with the small amount you have only a few make it to become professional drivers. Where as Europe have the total opposite, 95% stick drivers is the perfect breeding ground for world class quality wheel men.

Not saying you guys don't have world class drivers (you do) just very few of them and not many participate in world class events outside of the US. Which in turn brings us back to the topic at hand, having an outside brand in the series isn't all bad. Friendships start, suit wearers talk and who knows, before long a couple of US drivers may go overseas and drive for Toyota in F1 or likewise, that was my point.