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383 to 496 combination. What carburetor?
« on: November 20, 2007 - 02:11:54 PM »
Finally decided my engine combination and all parts are at home or ordered.

Bottom end is "383" with 4.25" stroke kit from 440Source. Also, can't wait to get new 440Source aluminum heads in January. What else..I have custom grind Engle K56 cam. It is maybe little small for this combination but worth to try. I am going to use my cast HP manifolds and trying to find Street Dominator intake. SD seems to be hard to find and new Edelbrock RPM is my second choice.

My question...What carburetor with this combination?

Thanks. Pepe

PS. I know that bigger cam & headders are better choices but I wanna try this factory look 383 stroker...

« Last Edit: November 21, 2007 - 08:36:13 AM by ArcticCuda »
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Re: 383 to 496 combination. What carburetor?
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2007 - 06:11:58 PM »
Size carb depends on how well the whole package breaths, and how you intend to drive it. On my 496, i have a 3 inch exhaust, 2 inch headers, and ported aluminum heads, and a .625 solid roller cam. Since I play on the street only, an 850 Holley with mechanical secondaries makes all the power I need. Without knowing your whole combo, including tranny and rear end gears, I'd say a good 750 Holley will do you well to start with. It will cover you up to and over 500 horsepower, and give you good throttle response on the street, especially at the stop lights!
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72 Cuda, owned 25 years. 496, with ported Stage VI heads, .625 in solid roller, 254/258 at .050, 3500 stall, 3.91 rear. 850 Holley DP, Reverse manual valve body.

1999 Trans Am, LS1, heads, cam, headers, stall, etc! Love to surprise the rice rockets with this one. They seem so confident, then it's "what the heck just happened?"

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Re: 383 to 496 combination. What carburetor?
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2007 - 06:24:17 PM »
I agree with cudabob496's recommendation of a Holley 750 as you stand now. You might go bigger in the future if you go a bit crazy on the upgrades. I would definitely look for a Holley SD intake over the Edelbrock RPM.


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Re: 383 to 496 combination. What carburetor?
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2007 - 06:33:47 PM »
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I think the cast manifolds are gonna choke all the nice stuff in there...  :clueless: :clueless:
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Re: 383 to 496 combination. What carburetor?
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2007 - 06:46:04 PM »
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I think the cast manifolds are gonna choke all the nice stuff in there...  :clueless: :clueless:

He has HP manifolds, which are better... but not as good as headers.

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Re: 383 to 496 combination. What carburetor?
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2007 - 07:33:11 PM »
I agree. To not put headers on your motor would really hurt performance. They are kinda one of the essential things to do when building a performance motor.
72 Cuda, owned 25 years. 496, with ported Stage VI heads, .625 in solid roller, 254/258 at .050, 3500 stall, 3.91 rear. 850 Holley DP, Reverse manual valve body.

1999 Trans Am, LS1, heads, cam, headers, stall, etc! Love to surprise the rice rockets with this one. They seem so confident, then it's "what the heck just happened?"

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Re: 383 to 496 combination. What carburetor?
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2007 - 09:28:46 PM »
I agree the hi-po manifolds will hurt performance compared to a good set of headers but if you port them out and have them extrude honed it will definitely minimize the difference between the two.
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Re: 383 to 496 combination. What carburetor?
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2007 - 10:32:25 PM »
I would use a Proform 950 or Holley 950 HP

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Re: 383 to 496 combination. What carburetor?
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2007 - 11:10:46 PM »
I agree the hi-po manifolds will hurt performance compared to a good set of headers but if you port them out and have them extrude honed it will definitely minimize the difference between the two.

It would seem that even with porting and honing of a hi-po manifold, headers would be much better because they are not just about airflow, but are tuned with specific bends and equal length pipes with collectors in specific places to maximize power.
72 Cuda, owned 25 years. 496, with ported Stage VI heads, .625 in solid roller, 254/258 at .050, 3500 stall, 3.91 rear. 850 Holley DP, Reverse manual valve body.

1999 Trans Am, LS1, heads, cam, headers, stall, etc! Love to surprise the rice rockets with this one. They seem so confident, then it's "what the heck just happened?"

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Re: 383 to 496 combination. What carburetor?
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2007 - 11:13:42 PM »
I would use a Proform 950 or Holley 950 HP

Wonder if my 496 needs a 950, but I think I did the calc once and the 850 seemed a better match. Hope I'm not cheeting myself. Maybe at WOT the 950 might give and extra 20 hp on a dyno.
72 Cuda, owned 25 years. 496, with ported Stage VI heads, .625 in solid roller, 254/258 at .050, 3500 stall, 3.91 rear. 850 Holley DP, Reverse manual valve body.

1999 Trans Am, LS1, heads, cam, headers, stall, etc! Love to surprise the rice rockets with this one. They seem so confident, then it's "what the heck just happened?"

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Re: 383 to 496 combination. What carburetor?
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2007 - 01:02:15 AM »
we used a Proform 950 on a 512 stroker I finished this fall , it responds like EFI , very impressive  :2thumbs:

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Re: 383 to 496 combination. What carburetor?
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2007 - 01:23:25 AM »
Thanks for replies. My rest combo is TF727 with 11" PTC converter + 3.55 gears.   I wanna try my HP manifold just for certain reasons, exhaust is 2.5".


CP, finding B-block SD here in Finland is almost impossible. I found one from Moparts.org but it was not available for us overseas people. :hyper:
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Re: 383 to 496 combination. What carburetor?
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2007 - 06:48:00 AM »
I think it would look awesome to see stock looking HP exhaust manifolds on a sneeky 383/496 stroker. That to me is the whole thing, looking stock but performing much better. I think it fits perfectly with the awesome resto you are doing on your car  :2thumbs:
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Re: 383 to 496 combination. What carburetor?
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2007 - 05:38:31 PM »
I would use a Proform 950 or Holley 950 HP



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Re: 383 to 496 combination. What carburetor?
« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2007 - 07:38:59 PM »
i have always wondered how much a set of manifolds really hurt/hinder performance? i would like to see the same motor switched from manifolds to headers and compare dyno results.i am sure the more hp a motor makes the more the difference will be.  they claim an e body and b body are very similar in the engine compartment. has anyone tried to put a set of maxwedge manifolds on an ebody? those are about as close to factory headers as you can get. just some points to ponder.
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