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nivvy

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8 3/4 Strength
« on: January 06, 2008 - 09:08:00 PM »
How much HP is a 8 3/4 good for ???




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Re: 8 3/4 Strength
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2008 - 09:51:56 PM »
It's not so much how much power will it handle, as much as it is HOW you apply it.  The heavier the car, slicks, or manual tranny sidestepping the clutch.  That combo will kill it pretty quick.  If you have a medium weight car with an auto and just a little wheelspin, it will be almost indestructable.  An auto applies the power relatively slow compared to a manual.  Bottom line, the less "shock" you give the rearend, the longer it will last...    :2cents:    :cooldancing:   
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Re: 8 3/4 Strength
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2008 - 09:55:26 PM »
 :iagree:   :2cents:  I had one in my 440-6 and it was just fine and it was not stock.
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Re: 8 3/4 Strength
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2008 - 10:19:34 PM »
well you guys know what i have 650+hp ... 727 ... thinking of throwing a 200 shot at it ??? really ow affetiv i bracing ??? im thinking of going dana 60..

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Re: 8 3/4 Strength
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2008 - 07:56:47 AM »
mine has broken several times usually the pinion was the problem anything from twisted splines to totally snapping the pinion off.  But i know several guys running alot more hp than i did that have never had issues.  All i can tell you is NEVER buy ZOOM gears there junk.

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Re: 8 3/4 Strength
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2008 - 08:16:51 AM »
I would recommend Moser, Richmond Gear, or Strange Engineering for rear gear stuff...    :2thumbs:   
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Re: 8 3/4 Strength
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2008 - 11:49:15 AM »
My race car with 500 hp (not much) and slicks on a sticky staring line tore those gears up.  Rips them right off of the ring or pinion.  My car was only 2300 lbs. Put a DANA in it and ran for 8 more years till I sold it.
 In my opinion, you need a DANA. Stroker, you are right on the verge of blowing up that puny 8-3/4.    They will only hold up till you get some serious traction, them BOOOOM!

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Re: 8 3/4 Strength
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2008 - 12:29:50 PM »
Stroker, you are right on the verge of blowing up that puny 8-3/4.    They will only hold up till you get some serious traction, them BOOOOM!
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With that much power, I would consider a Dana.  I have an 8 3/4 in the Dart I use to race and it handled a 440 (about 450hp) with an auto and using the footbrake only.  I would not risk another 200 shot without a larger rear.
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Re: 8 3/4 Strength
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2008 - 12:31:48 PM »
If you have to spend $$ to fix the diff I would starts spending $$ on the dana

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Re: 8 3/4 Strength
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2008 - 02:30:07 PM »



Go for the Dana if not for the added strength then the peace of mind. Two words: Dr Diff. :2thumbs:


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Re: 8 3/4 Strength
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2008 - 03:49:49 PM »
how much does the brace really help???

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Re: 8 3/4 Strength
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2008 - 05:06:02 PM »
The brace will only help if you're trying to twist the center section out from between the axle tubes. The ring gear will break befroe that happens on an 8-3/4.  It isn't needed in a Dana at all. The most I added to my DANA was steel caps. I ran a tranny brake and held it to 4000 Rpm while the lights came down. I never hurt it at all.  I was running 16.5-33" slicks too.
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Re: 8 3/4 Strength
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2008 - 06:17:38 PM »


Go for the Dana if not for the added strength then the peace of mind. Two words: Dr Diff. :2thumbs:




I would love that setup.  It would be really cool to have.  How Much?
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Re: 8 3/4 Strength
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2008 - 06:39:50 PM »
I would love that setup.  It would be really cool to have.  How Much?

I'm guessing you don't want to know.   :smilielol:


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Re: 8 3/4 Strength
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2008 - 07:57:03 PM »
I'm guessing you don't want to know.   :smilielol:


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I don't want to know either. :lol:

Don't really like to speak prices but I consider it a competitive price. You pay for what you get.  ;)
If you're really keen and would like one check out Dr-Diff's website: http://members.aol.com/doctordiff/dana.html


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