ARR Cuda clones

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Offline jeryst

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Re: ARR Cuda clones
« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2008 - 12:10:45 AM »
In your original post, you said the guy makes complete kits. What is included, how is the quality, and what is the price?

I've always wanted an AAR, but at todays prices, it'll never happen. Also, I'd be afraid to take it out of the garage.




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« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2008 - 12:14:43 AM »
I would want to put in the side lights for the 1970.  Except for that it looks really good.
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« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2008 - 12:18:38 AM »
Righ now, I'm still getting the numbers together. I will have something by the end of the week. 

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« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2008 - 12:24:59 AM »
I don't see why they couldn't have a complete kit as I believe just about all the parts are available after market now.  I saw the cuda 70-71 tail panel repro in mopar muscle recently and that I think was the last piece that is needed? 
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« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2008 - 01:00:54 AM »
Note the marker lights.

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« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2008 - 01:50:17 AM »
I would go for it 72-74 model or not as there will always be a market for a AAR Cuda real car or not.


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« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2008 - 02:25:22 AM »
Thanks for all of the comments on my little project. I know what the "real" AAR Cuda's are going for and I have seen clones go from anywhere from $40,000 to $55,000. Does this sound about right?

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« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2008 - 04:19:46 AM »
Thanks for all of the comments on my little project. I know what the "real" AAR Cuda's are going for and I have seen clones go from anywhere from $40,000 to $55,000. Does this sound about right?


I would hope clones aren't bringing that much money.  The prices of E bodies are slightly dropping, and I would think the clones would be the first hit.   :2cents:

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« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2008 - 07:08:44 AM »
How complete is this kit? Is it just an appearance kit or does it also contain hard parts? AARs and TAs were more than just hoods, spoilers and decals as they also used different steering, sway bars, torsion bars, springs, exhaust, tires and a number of other smaller things, outside of the obvious 340 six pak.

I would imagine if you were doing it as a business venture, it could be done, and you could turn a profit on it. However prepare to be nit-picked by buyers about things like side marker lights, 318s, aftermarket wheels and such. The real cars command the dollars they get because of their uniqueness. There is a large percentage of mopar guys who demand exactness in their details. Just read any post on any forum about complaints of non-matching engine bay color, mismatched rallye wheel centers, and the like to see first hand how brutal we, as a hobby, can be as a whole. 

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« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2008 - 09:22:17 AM »
 :iagree: If you want top dollar the car needs to be correct with a 340-6 and all the other parts otherwise you won`t get anywhere near that kind of money for a 318 wanna be.
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« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2008 - 09:34:02 AM »
 For WIW I just got turned on to a white AAR.    For 15K.   Partially disassembled.  There are few left. I agree with HP2 and most. You could do it.   The margin wouldn't be that big though. These cars are more personal to most owners. It would have to be top notch.  Instead of a buisness venture,why not get a 72-74 and see what it's like. The marker lights are just the tip of the iceberg.   40-55K for a clone is too much IMO.  30-40 mayby.
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« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2008 - 10:16:58 AM »
I would hope clones aren't bringing that much money.  The prices of E bodies are slightly dropping, and I would think the clones would be the first hit.   :2cents:

 :iagree:  That much for a clone sounds a wee bit high.  Like IMNCARN82 said, $30-$40k seems like a more realistic ballpark for a fresh clone.

It'll be interesting to see once you get some numbers.  It all depends, like the others have said, how close you want it to be to the real deal.  For some, it might just be the badging and hood.  Others want a mirror image.
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« Reply #27 on: January 08, 2008 - 02:39:02 PM »
Do the Challenger T/A clones usually go for the same price of the AAR clones?

and when you say people get nit picky over details, what about upgrades like boxed lower control arms and other stuff to enhance performance?  Do you think someone would rather have it stock?

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« Reply #28 on: January 08, 2008 - 02:59:07 PM »
I think the fact that there is not 1 real answer to you question of whether the buyer would want it more stock or not is the problem with a venture like that.  If it is a clone, some will want it to be perfectly "stock", and some will prefer for it to be enhanced with stuff like XV type suspension.  Only an original car has an original state to shoot for.  Everything else falls under personal taste.
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« Reply #29 on: January 08, 2008 - 06:31:09 PM »
yep go for it, you can buy 70 fenders, quarters, grills and even the 70 tail panels now. Makes me ponder the idea of building a hemi car to look like a 70 out of a 72-4. The 72-4 cudas are much cheaper to buy and if you are just going to drive it and enjoy it i say go for it.
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