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Offline jeryst

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Can stripes be changed?
« on: January 19, 2008 - 07:12:58 PM »
A friend of mine is looking at a Cuda, but he doesn't like the stripes. Can stripes be changed, or do they damage or mark the paint underneath? If they can be changed, how would you get thm off without damaging the paint or leaving any telltale marks?




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Re: Can stripes be changed?
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2008 - 07:19:01 PM »
Heat gun is what I would use and yes I believe that stripes can be changed.  Probably change mine one day when I get tired of them.  What stripe doesn't he like?? 

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Re: Can stripes be changed?
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2008 - 08:03:04 PM »
We probably need a little more info to say for sure.  If they are the vinyl type and have not been overcoated, or put on too soon after the fresh paint, and haven't been on there 25 years, they might be fine.  Unfortunately you can't tell for sure until you have taken them off.  Your chances are much better if they have been put on a bc/cc car that hasn't been stored outside where the exposed paint has faded.
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Re: Can stripes be changed?
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2008 - 08:06:22 PM »
Heat gun is what I would use and yes I believe that stripes can be changed.  Probably change mine one day when I get tired of them.  What stripe doesn't he like?? 
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Re: Can stripes be changed?
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2008 - 08:35:00 PM »
Hey 4C,

You do not see the strobe stripe all to often on Barracudas Yours looks great, have you thought of doing purple ghost decal strobe stripe ?

Nope haven't thought about that . . maybe when I get bored of these.   :dunno:   I'm gonna stripe this car next! 

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Re: Can stripes be changed?
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2008 - 08:41:29 PM »
What strip on this one?
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Re: Can stripes be changed?
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2008 - 09:38:43 PM »
Heat gun is what I would use and yes I believe that stripes can be changed.  Probably change mine one day when I get tired of them.  What stripe doesn't he like?? 

Car is a 73, and it has the straight stripe that gets bigger on the quarter panel. He wants billboards. The car was only painted less than 2 years ago, and is garaged most of the time. Don't know what type of paint.

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Re: Can stripes be changed?
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2008 - 10:13:51 PM »
Does the strip look like it is painted on or is it vinyl?  You might be able to see where the other strip was.  You may need to let it set out in the sun for a few days after pulling the strip off.  The paint under the strip did not dry at the same rate.
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Re: Can stripes be changed?
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2008 - 08:06:27 PM »
Stripe just looks like a factory flat black decal type stripe.

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Re: Can stripes be changed?
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2008 - 02:00:12 AM »
Below is the stripe that you're talking about.  When you remove the vinyl stripe, you will have a tacky residue that will need to be removed.  Its possible that some WD-40 on a soft cloth will do the job without harming the finish. 
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Re: Can stripes be changed?
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2008 - 09:05:23 AM »
Get up real close to it and even use a magnifying glass on an edge of the striping.  First you're looking for a raised edge, indicating that it is a vinyl decal and not paint (you can also of course tell this by hand.)  What you're really looking for is a fillet of clear material (paint) from the decal to the body of the car.  This would indicate that the body was re-cleared after the vinyl was applied - this basically extended the life of a vinyl from about 8-10 years to pretty much permanent.  If this exists, then peeling the graphic will A) be difficult and B) possibly begin peeling the top layer of clear coat.  This will required a dilligent wet-sanding/buffing job to feather the edge of the top clear coat.  You wouldn't typically need a repaint because this is an extra layer of clear.

The last concern is that the paint under the graphic could be bright than the rest of the paint, due to fading over the years.  The pigments on older cars are a little more vulnerable to this than today's cars.  The only tip I can give is to maybe start at the back, bottom corner of the vinyl, and just peel up a tiny bit of the corner.  Make sure the vinyl is warm to soften the adhesive.  Use a mirror to reflect natural sunlight against the paint under this corner to detect any fading - a flaslight will affect your eyesight - natural sunlight is best.  If you see fading, quickly reapply the vinyl and warm it back up to let the adhesive rebond.

If there's no clearcoat, and no fading, and it is indeed a vinyl, he should be perfectly fine to remove the graphics.

Sorry to be so detailed, but I would hate to see someone start something as simple as peeling a sticker off, and ending up with a huge mess on their hands!

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Re: Can stripes be changed?
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2008 - 12:24:17 PM »
The owner told my friend that it is a vinyl stripe. He also said that he had it painted in the fall, and then let it sit all winter before having the stripe put on in the spring, in order to let the paint dry. It was not cleared over.

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Re: Can stripes be changed?
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2008 - 02:01:57 PM »
Oh!  Sh!t - rip that sucker off then.  Shouldn't have any problems.

BEST bet is to let it sit in the sun for a good couple of hours - using a heat gun without care could cost the paint to blister.  Or at least use a hair dryer on a low heat setting.  All you want to do is soften the adhesive to let you peel the sticker off.  Do so gently with a finger nail - some people use credit cards, but BE CAREFUL - with the paint being warm it too can get soft, and you can leave permanent marks in the paint.

Work the graphic off sloooooowlly and paaattiently.  Clean off residual glue with soap and water.  (If it were a production car I'd say use a quick spray of WD40 to remove the adhesive.  On a classic though, don't do that. :) )

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Re: Can stripes be changed?
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2008 - 04:03:08 PM »
Got to go with the Hockey!!!

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Re: Can stripes be changed?
« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2008 - 06:24:10 PM »
I had stripes on for a couple of years, and I just ripped those suckers off. I would suggest the hair-dryer method to play it safe. Side stripes are so much fun to put on.   :pullinghair:


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