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Offline MEK-Dangerfield

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Pulse plugs.
« on: January 24, 2008 - 04:50:40 PM »
I saw this in a magazine ad a few weeks back. It's another attempt to build a better mouse trap, but I wonder if there is any validity to it.  :dunno:

Any opinions?


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Re: Pulse plugs.
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2008 - 05:13:58 PM »
Looks interesting.  :thumbsup:  Thanks for sharing.

My first though when I saw all that "spark" in the comparison to regular plugs is that it would make a lot of heat.  Then I saw the disclaimer that said it is only for stock, unmodified engines.

I guess it makes sense in that if you can burn up more of the ar/fuel mixture that enters into the combustion chamber, in heory, you'll make more horsepower. 

It's sort of taking a different approach to increasing HP than superchargers/turbos.  Instead of increasing volumetric efficiency, it's taking what's there and making it more efficient. 

Interesting...who'll be the first?   :misbehaving:
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Re: Pulse plugs.
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2008 - 05:35:24 PM »
I just checked the price for my car. $24.99 per plug!!!   :money:
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Re: Pulse plugs.
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2008 - 09:46:23 PM »
Save your cash for a high power spark box and use $2.49 NGK racing plugs from Summit

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Re: Pulse plugs.
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2008 - 10:11:58 PM »
$199.92 plus shipping for a set of 8.  :scared:



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Re: Pulse plugs.
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2008 - 10:37:04 PM »
looks like a fancy gimmick to me..

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Re: Pulse plugs.
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2008 - 12:19:15 AM »
Save your cash for a high power spark box and use $2.49 NGK racing plugs from Summit

And file back the negative electrode (so the positive is more exposed) for another 5 hp!
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Re: Pulse plugs.
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2008 - 12:22:55 AM »
$199.92 plus shipping for a set of 8.  :scared:

 :iagree: :scared:

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Re: Pulse plugs.
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2008 - 12:29:38 AM »
If you have time and want a good read about cylinder pressure and spark read this:

http://www.castensdynojet.com/insiders.htm


How does an electric spark ignite fuel? Actually, nobody is quite sure. Three long-standing theories exist. The first, the thermal theory, has been around the longest but has recently lost ground to the other two, as new, more sophisticated tests are run. The thermal theory states that ignition is simply a factor of the heat of the spark, and that it occurs in much the same way as if the air/fuel mixture were lit with a burning match. This theory has been somewhat (although not entirely) discounted by recent data compiled on electronic ignitions, which have the ability to tailor a spark's duration (burn time), intensity (strength, measured in amps) and phase angle to dictate when during the spark duration the highest intensity will be delivered. The ability to control ignition through factors other than thermal energy has led to the metal fragmentation and ping pong theories.
The metal fragmentation theory states that highly ionized electrons rip metal fragments from the sparkplug's electrodes as they migrate across the plug gap, collide with the hydrocarbon molecule (gasoline), and act as a catalyst to the burning process. Supporters of this theory allude to tests that show how variations in the electrode's metal composition will enhance certain ignition properties. As a practical example, Champion sparkplug electrodes with a relatively soft metal composition allow for large amounts of metal fragmentation, which enhance the plug's ability to burn through large quantities of fouling contaminants. This formula is useful for engines that have a fouling problem, although the plug's soft electrodes tend to wear down relatively quickly. At the opposite end of the scale are Autolite plugs, which feature a hardened metal composition electrode with long-wear characteristics for engines that don't have a serious fouling problem.
The ping pong theory states that fuel ignition is accomplished when electrons from the spark collide with hydrocarbon molecules as they migrate across the electrode gap, splitting the positively charged protons from the molecule, which in turn collide with other molecules, triggering ignition. Although fuel ignition may well be a combination of all three theories, recent trends lean toward a combination of the ping pong and metal fragmentation concepts.
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Re: Pulse plugs.
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2008 - 03:46:28 AM »
A friend with a SS/D Hemi Cuda took all the popular spark plugs to the dyno to test to see if any plug would deliver more power as 2-3 Hp is worth it to a SS driver , his results were interesting , , the more a spark plug cost the more power he lost , Splitfires cost him 24 HP , the $1.50 Champs & Autolites yeilded top HP , if somone wants to try the pulse plugs on a dyno & post the results I would be interested in seeing it

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Re: Pulse plugs.
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2008 - 07:16:58 AM »
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Pulse plugs incorporate a pulse circuit, which stores incoming electrical energy from the ignition system and releases the stored energy in a powerful pulse of power.

Isn't that what the coil does ? 

Maybe it should read:

"Pulse plugs incorporate a pulse circuit, which stores incoming $$$$$$ and releases the stored $$$$$$ in a burst of vacation in the Bahamas"

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Re: Pulse plugs.
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2008 - 09:37:40 AM »
A friend with a SS/D Hemi Cuda took all the popular spark plugs to the dyno to test to see if any plug would deliver more power as 2-3 Hp is worth it to a SS driver , his results were interesting , , the more a spark plug cost the more power he lost , Splitfires cost him 24 HP , the $1.50 Champs & Autolites yeilded top HP , if somone wants to try the pulse plugs on a dyno & post the results I would be interested in seeing it

 That's very interesting Chryco. I had always thought it was a trade off. By being frugal using Champions I was missing out on a few HP's. :grinno:   

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Re: Pulse plugs.
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2008 - 01:10:24 PM »
all fo the more expensive plugs cost some HP , even NGK V groove & Bosch platinum cost some power
 I found the test interesting as well & I am sure most of the plug maker do not want you to to know this info otherwise all the high $$ plugs would never sell 

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Re: Pulse plugs.
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2008 - 06:56:12 PM »
looks like a fancy gimmick to me..

Stroker, those don't look like fancy gimmicks to me!
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Re: Pulse plugs.
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2008 - 11:32:33 PM »
the $1.50 Champs & Autolites yeilded top HP

I've always used autolites with out any trouble. I've been told that they are the cheapest, hardest metal, crap plug out there. But since I subscribe the metal fragmentation theory of ignition, I have no problem with them having hard electrodes in them.

IMO, the only reason to use any of these multiple ground strap, multiple electrode, hype stuff is to avoid changing your plugs in the recommended intervals. If you ever look at a very used plug, the electrode is rounded. Sparks like to jump to/from sharp edges. Add more edges for the spark to jump around on and you reduce the erosion of any one spot and move it around the rest of the electrode so the edges last longer.