Swap A/C car to non-A/C, what all is involved?

[longgone]

Ok, I've decided to convert my 70' Cuda A/C car over to a non-A/C car.  Doesn't make a very good 440-6pk clone with A/C hehe...

So I'm making a list in my head but please help me fill it out.

So far I think I need to obtain:
Non A/C Dash Pad (going to get a UR pad)
Heater Control Switch (where is good source?)
Heater Control Dash Panel (for Rallye dash)
Non A/C Heater Box w/ Heater Core (probably get a rebuilt one)

What else am I missing?  Also, has anyone else done this?  Any tips or thoughts?  Any good sources you would recommend?

Thanks
Blueglow

[DoNotChallengeHer]

Your gonna need different pulleys.

[Topcat]

Change the firewall over to a non A/C hole to look correct.

[Moparal]

Are you going to change the dash harness to non ac? Under the hood harness?

[longgone]

Good points.  The car hasn't had the working A/C parts under the hood in some time so nothing on the motor to swap.  Wasn't aware of the non-A/C wiring harness.  Where can those be obtained?
Yeah, I know swapping the firewall might be tough...  I thought I would cover the holes with something instead.  It doesn't have to be perfect...  But since I wanted a new dash pad anyway, I thought it would be time to do this.

Thanks
Blueglow

[4Cruizn]

If you plan on just covering the holes in the firewall, the non AC heater box won't fit.  You'll have to use the AC one.   

[Moparal]

I get the harnesses from swap meets, ebay, yearone.  Under the hood harness has the dryer and compressor wires, under the dash has the switch and heater box harness on it.

[Carlwalski]

I'm doing this to Madeline as well, what is needed to change the firewall to a non-A/C one? A non-A/C firewall?? I have a non A/C box, non A/C dash, non-A/C dash lower panel cluster (heater control), complete new restored heater box with everything needed. I guess all I need to know is the firewall part. Are you talking about the two holes on the passenger side? Bung/weld them up or? Thanks and sorry for the hi-jack albeit on topic.

[Topcat]

Carl, the hole size and actual location are different from A/C and non A/C. So you gotta get a section of the right half of the non A/C firewall.  After you match the cut portions together against each other, Stitch weld the new section in.

[Carlwalski]

Thanks TC. Yay, now I have to find a good condition used non A/C RH side firewall for a Cuda lol.


Wonder if Goodmark make them..................

[Carlwalski]

Scratch that, just talked to the main resto guy at the shop and he had already looked at that area. We'll be welding up the original A/C holes and rerouting the new non a/c holes to suit and we'll make them as "invisible" or out of view completely (or as possible). I just want this car "junk" free and clutter-less. I planned ages ago to have the wiring in the fenders so this follows suits nicely with my plan, I just want to open the hood and see HEMI lol. Thanks all the same for the help. To the original poster, Goodmark do make reproduction upper firewalls with non A/C, part # 2120-380-701S. If you are worried about being correct this maybe the way to go or a used original replacement. Best of luck with it.

[ShelbyDogg]

I converted my non AC firewall to AC, by cutting the holes open to adapt the A/C box.  The only difference was that my lip around the blower motor is not there.  To convert to non A/C,  just do as Carl's body man is doing.  Cut off the blower lip and weld in a plate over the coolant, A/C line holes, and blower motor hole.  Then just cut 2 new holes for the new heater line locations. 

[ksierens]

I think I would rather fix the A/C.  I would rather have a little less power, especially with the newer style compressors, and be comfortable on those hot summer days.

[NoMope Greg]

I think I would rather fix the A/C.  I would rather have a little less power, especially with the newer style compressors, and be comfortable on those hot summer days.

FWIW - .  I understand the desire to have a clone car that matches up as closely as possible to an original, but in the end, it's a clone and the AC/non-AC will have minimal effect on the value of the vehicle.  Of course, you aren't doing this for value.  Just my 

[CHUCKS71]

Here is the heater control I also have a non A/C dash pad it has a few cracks good for a core.
  Chuck