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Offline tactransman

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Nitrogen in tires........................
« on: May 07, 2008 - 09:18:55 AM »
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Re: Nitrogen in tires........................
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2008 - 09:29:29 AM »
we use nitrogen here at the dealer and most people sware by it,  the benefit from the n2o is that is doesn't expand or contract like air does with heat or cold conditions.
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Re: Nitrogen in tires........................
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2008 - 09:50:33 AM »
we use nitrogen here at the dealer and most people sware by it,  the benefit from the n2o is that is doesn't expand or contract like air does with heat or cold conditions.
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The tire pressure indicators on my newer cars are pretty sensitive, and filling the tires with nitrogen keeps the pressures much more steady.  Even if it is a gimmick, it is usually cheap or free at my tire guy.  On my beater car, I have to add air to the tires once in a while, so I don't bother with nitrogen. :2cents:
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Re: Nitrogen in tires........................
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2008 - 11:57:53 AM »
Its great for aircrafts and when tire pressure is needing to be consistant (racing).

Other than that, im fine running just 79% nitrogen in my tires...since whats getting sucked into my air compressor for free contains that much.
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Re: Nitrogen in tires........................
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2008 - 12:30:32 PM »
Why not use helium?

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Re: Nitrogen in tires........................
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2008 - 02:58:02 PM »
Helium is too thin - it will escape the tire more quickly than air.

I don't know that the comment about Nitrogen not expanding or contracting is correct - everything expands or contracts compared to relative temperature.  The idea behind using Nitrogen is that the gas is thicker than plain ol' air and therefore does not escape the tire as easily as air does.

Of course, the other comment above is correct - air is mostly nitrogen anyways, so what difference does the extra 20% Nitrogen give?  I'm not sure, but it costs an extra $20 bucks!

Most places are offering the Nitrogen and then claiming that only they can put more Nitrogen in your tires, thus forcing you to return to their shop and their shop only, thus giving them more opportunities to sell you stuff.

I say "ignore the hype - this is no-big-deal."

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Re: Nitrogen in tires........................
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2008 - 03:00:03 PM »
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Helium is too thin - it will escape the tire more quickly than air.

Apparently my keen sense of humor and irony escaped you.

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Re: Nitrogen in tires........................
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2008 - 03:08:28 PM »
The idea with nitrogen is that it's "dry" - there is no water vapor, which will expand or contract more than nitrogen alone.
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Re: Nitrogen in tires........................
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2008 - 03:26:26 PM »
Nitrogen is fine and all, but do we really need it for a daily driver?  I know they use it for race applications where pressure is absolutely critical, but I think it is way overkill for a road car.  No matter what it will need to be refilled on a regular basis.  I'd rather do mine for free 4 times a year than pay to have them filled once a year.

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Re: Nitrogen in tires........................
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2008 - 03:32:24 PM »
Nitrogen is fine and all, but do we really need it for a daily driver?  I know they use it for race applications where pressure is absolutely critical, but I think it is way overkill for a road car.  No matter what it will need to be refilled on a regular basis.  I'd rather do mine for free 4 times a year than pay to have them filled once a year.

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Re: Nitrogen in tires........................
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2008 - 03:47:22 PM »
A cheap desiccant dryer would eliminate the moisture issue.
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Re: Nitrogen in tires........................
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2008 - 05:29:55 PM »
Before I put new Michelins on my daily driver the old tires would need air at least once a week, one tire would be down to 20lbs. Costco did a great installation, wire wheeling the aluminum rims and using bead sealer then filling them with nitrogen. I haven't had to add even a pound for the last five months. Was it the excellent workmanship, was it the nitrogen  :dunno: They did say it's safe to add regular air if you need to and I heard that it's better because the molecules are bigger than plain air which help prevent it from seeping out of porous rims. Anyway, I won't go back to plain air if I could avoid it. BTW, nitogen was free at Costco.
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Re: Nitrogen in tires........................
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2008 - 06:41:45 PM »
ho is dead on moisture makes air  unstable we used it for years in road racing and it makes a real difference . streeters not so much .also for farts and giggles look at indy car stagger thats left to right an 1\16 inch will stick you in the wall thats were nitrogen has gains .if ya all want to make a difference calibrate your gauges often we replace ours every year

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Re: Nitrogen in tires........................
« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2008 - 06:43:04 PM »
I only know of one place around me now where you don't have to pay for plain old air.   :stomp:

Yeah, put 75 cents in the machine, and you better be darn fast at getting to all the tires before your time is up.   :stomp:

Maybe nitrogen is my next step.  :naughty:


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Re: Nitrogen in tires........................
« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2008 - 06:49:21 PM »
I only know of one place around me now where you don't have to pay for plain old air.   :stomp:

Yeah, put 75 cents in the machine, and you better be darn fast at getting to all the tires before your time is up.   :stomp:

Maybe nitrogen is my next step.  :naughty:


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