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Offline 4THECHALLENGE

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what am i missing ??
« on: May 08, 2008 - 02:14:28 AM »
i have a 1974 dodge challenger im cloning a 1970 dodge challenger i have the 1970 grill all 3 parts (left, right and center) my question is ? what am i missing to hols the headlights in ??i went on ebag and couldnt find anything even related
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Re: what am i missing ??
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2008 - 02:23:35 AM »
you will need steel headlight buckets & frame to weld onto the front fender , , I don`t know of any source short of buying a pair of fenders

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Re: what am i missing ??
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2008 - 02:33:04 AM »
i have fenders  but cant get the headlibghts to hold

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Re: what am i missing ??
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2008 - 03:25:16 AM »
You have 1972 -74 fenders.  You need 1970-71 fenders.  They are not the same.
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Re: what am i missing ??
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2008 - 08:08:49 AM »
you will need steel headlight buckets & frame to weld onto the front fender , , I don`t know of any source short of buying a pair of fenders


I gkring is selling a pair of steel fenders and buckets, some rust but definately useable. 
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Re: what am i missing ??
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2008 - 12:37:20 PM »
thas the problem your right !!! hmm can i use maybe a bucket from another car??

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Re: what am i missing ??
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2008 - 01:15:05 PM »
Maybe...but to be on the safe side, you might want to find a '70 or '71 and make some measurements of that area and see where the differences are.  It might be easier to mount new fenders.
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Re: what am i missing ??
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2008 - 02:57:19 PM »
i know but the problem is 70-71 fenders are too much $$$ ..has anyone had this problem ?? or can i just buy the headlight bucket of a really bad fender?

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Re: what am i missing ??
« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2008 - 04:03:46 PM »
Yes, they are pricey - but so are 72-74 fenders.  And unless you want to keep them "just in case," you can sell them (and the grille and header, etc) to re-coup some of the cost.
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Re: what am i missing ??
« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2008 - 04:14:25 PM »
dude you are so right... why didnt i think of that ?? are they hard to remove??

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Re: what am i missing ??
« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2008 - 04:21:46 PM »
I haven't done it - but I think it's all bolt-on.
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Re: what am i missing ??
« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2008 - 04:23:18 PM »
The fenders are bolt on but the buckets are welded on. I have a 70 and the parts are one year only and not cheap0(dash seat belts console, fenders, hood hinges, grills, headlight bezels etc-welcome the my world and good luck

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Re: what am i missing ??
« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2008 - 04:33:44 PM »
well unless i get luck and find some rusted 70-71 fenders where i can just have the buckets welded onto mine ..this suck !!! or ill have to fabricate something from a checy car  :feedback:

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Re: what am i missing ??
« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2008 - 04:57:04 PM »
There are a couple of places to get headlight buckets for the '70, '71 fenders.

Unlimited products http://www.up22.com/index.htm sells fiberglass copies. I've heard mixed reviews on these, obviously not as good as having the real thing, and I'm not exactly sure how you'd have to attach them to the fenders. You might be able to get away with riveting/bolting them to the inner fenderwell/radiator support structure, but I haven't seen it done.

You can also get metal headlight buckets from B/E & A restortation http://beaparts.com/default.asp, but if the price of the fenders was too high for you you're probably out of luck, they sell for 317 bucks. Although, they do come with "mounting feet" so you may be able to work something similar out for the fiberglass ones...

B/E & A also make patch panels for the side marker lights, so you could weld in the proper panels for the '70/'71 side markers.

You'll also need the front latch panel, hood latch release mechanism, and possibly the hood latch, as these are all mounted in different places for the '70 grille. The top latch panel is an integral part of the 72-74 grille, so you can't reuse that. You may also need the grille support upright, not sure on that one...


Yeah, I've been looking at converting mine over...Can you tell?  :grinno:

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Re: what am i missing ??
« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2008 - 05:03:52 PM »
In addition to the headlight buckets is it required to change out the physical inner fender structure as well?
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