barracudas...what years

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Offline zuerchers

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barracudas...what years
« on: December 20, 2001 - 05:57:15 AM »
i have always been a challenger fan...recently discovered cudas.  what years are the most desireable as collectables?  what are your favorite years and why?
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Re: barracudas...what years
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2001 - 08:36:10 AM »
I like 70 Cudas, but I really like 71 Cudas!  The body style of that fish is just attractive.

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Re: barracudas...what years
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2001 - 10:53:33 AM »
are the changes in body style similiar to that of the challenger?  the challenger only had a change in the grills and tailights over the years of 70-74.  same with cudas?
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Re: barracudas...what years
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2001 - 01:47:03 PM »
There were lots of subtle changes but the shape of the cars didn't really change from 70-74, as with Challengers.

The 70 and 71 Cuda's are by far the most popular but all Cuda's are collectable and rare, especially the ones with little or no rust.

Cuda's are the high performance version of Barracuda's, sort of like a Bernaletta Camero is the low performance version of the Z-28 Camero, same skin but most everything else has been subtly upgraded for performance.

1971 seems to be the peak Cuda in popularity with the gilled fenders, cheese grator grill, bill board quarter panel graphics, etc. The 1970 model lacked some of these "frills" but in my opinion looked a little meaner with it's no nonsense and clean looks, especially when painted black! The most popular options on either year car (now days anyway) seem to be the 426 Hemi engine, the rear "Go-Wing" spoiler, the Shaker Hood, and 15 x 7 Rallye Wheels. The Bill board decals on 71's seem to be high on the list as well. Want to see a 70 and a 71 comparison? Look at the flashing pic on the left of my posting, the green car is a 1970 Barracuda convertible, the orange one is a loaded 71 Cuda convertible.

Engine choices for both years were the same, Barracuda's had either a 383 2 barrel, a 383 4 barrel, a 318 2 barrel, or a slant 6 (yes, believe it of not even the Barracuda had the slant 6 as an option!)

Cuda's had a base engine of the 383 four barrel or the 340 4 barrel at not additional cost, the 440 4 barrel, the 440 Six Barrel, and the 426 hemi were all extra cost options.

Transmissions were either the 3 speed manual, the pistol Grip 4 speed manual, or the 727 automatic with slap stick shifter.

I'm pretty certain the above info is correct, any critics out there feel free to correct me :)
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Re: barracudas...what years
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2001 - 02:08:57 PM »
great info...thanks.
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Re: barracudas...what years
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2001 - 05:37:59 PM »
BadHemi,
I think you said it pretty well.  
The 440 Cuda was supposedly more rare then the 440-6 in a Cuda or Challenger.
One thing though, as far as popularity is concerned,  I think it's a toss-up as to which one is more popular between the 70 and 71. The 71 is a lower production car, but it also seems to attract the 'love it-hate it' crowd.
Personally, I like em both!

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« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2001 - 07:25:04 PM »
I unfortunately do not own either. :o

Another downside in my life's journey.  :(

However, I have always loved the look of the Cuda and envied the extra goodies of the Challenger! Specifically '70 to 72 at most. ? In my heyday anyway. But today I would  desire even a '73-74 Cuda/Challenger as they are becoming so rare, etc. NOW, I am starting to see them in a better and different (good) light!  ;D

I would of course modify it or rather customize it, to my particular tastes, IF it wasn't a rare type!!!  :o A 440/383 ,340/360. But a 318/Slant 6 might be just the ticket!

Also, a neat project, if done VERY tastefully (like the guitar work with Pink Floyd) ...would be a cross-hybrid! What about a cross between the two? Hmm...much thought would have to be done, to do it right/tastefully body and interior wise, then add appropriate suspension, manual 6 spd. tranny and a Cummins Diesel!!! No??? A Viper V10, okay a HEMI, No, a 6 pack 440...uh 340 ......small block, slant 6? WARP DRIVE! Turbine, keep dream'in! Anyway, some kinda road hugger that would blow the living daylights out of those ricers!  ;D

Kinda like what High Performance Mopar did a number of yrs. ago with their "One Lap of America" Valiant!!!!!!!!  8)

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Re: barracudas...what years
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2001 - 11:49:32 AM »
Here's a pic of bro's 70 Cuda ... has that -- what did you call it, BadHemi? -- the rear Go-Wing spoiler, right?



I never know all the terms for these cars ... I just LOVE to drive 'em!  



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Re: barracudas...what years
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2001 - 03:11:08 PM »
Hey, that's ME  :D  Want my autograph...?
Just to add to Badhemi's info:  1970 was the only year for the 440 4-barrel E-body.  Also, 1971 was the last year for a big block E-body, but that little tidbit is common knowledge.  When it comes to $$ the '71 'Cuda is the winner.  
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Re: barracudas...what years
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2001 - 04:26:05 PM »
Yup, that's you!  Wish my camera would've caught ya' earlier in the burnout.  Guess you'll just have to come back up here and do some more burnouts!  Hee hee!

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« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2001 - 06:53:26 PM »
Lah Tera,

At least you drive them and not trailer "Queen" them!   ;D

You are definately blethhed! Thufferin Sthuckitath!  Err...blessed! :)

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Re: barracudas...what years
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2001 - 06:09:48 AM »
I likw the grill of the 71 but not much on the fender gill's. I hane a 70 383 Cuda my self.
Akacuda, I know there 71 440-6 Cuda's I have seen them. So I am 99.9% sure there where 71 440-4 barrels as well.

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Re: barracudas...what years
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2001 - 04:24:39 PM »
Oh, for sure don't want to trailer 'em.  Cars are meant to be driven.  And if there's one thing I can do, it's drive. ;)

Someday, I'll get to race again.  <Dreamy sigh!>

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Re: barracudas...what years
« Reply #13 on: December 25, 2001 - 06:01:34 AM »
Merry Christmas All!
Cudaken:  You're right, there are 440-6 '71 'Cudas, but strangely enough, you couldn't get a 440-4 barrel in '71 on a Challenger or 'Cuda.  Actually, it's the same deal with the 69-71 Road Runner and Super Bee.  They offered the 440 6 pack, but you couldn't get the 4 barrel version.  I really get into the strange engine combos they did or didn't produce.  I could go on and on about those oddballs.

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Re: barracudas...what years
« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2001 - 04:46:48 AM »
CudaKen,

You're right dude, I verified that they did in fact drop the 440 four barrel from the Cuda option list in 1971, I overlooked that fact in my opening statement. In 1971 they only offered the base 383, the no upcharge 340, and the optional upgrade 440+6, and 426 Hemi engines.

So, the very few A-body 1969 'Cuda's (yes, they actually made a Cuda decal package for the 69 A-body Barracuda's) and 1970 E-body 'Cudas with the 440 engine pretty much makes a standard 440 4 barrel 'Cuda of any year one of the rarest 440 cars built! They made 340 1969 Cuda 440 four barrels and only 952 1970 Cuda 440 four barrels, those numbers include all transmissions, both hard top and convertible combined, that's RARE!  :)