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open headers made no diff on the strip.
« on: June 01, 2008 - 09:42:14 PM »
as alot of you know ive been fighting a tuning issue with my car. i had a tranny issue and finally got my hands on a lokar cable and most of my tranny issues disappeared. while i was under my car i noticed that the exhaust was 2.5'' into the mufflers and 2'' out over the rear end so i ran open headers at the track today and absolutely no difference at all [ except now i sound fast ]. this thing just simply does not react with jetting, timing and exhaust. i'm going to check my cam timing this week but i needed to vent  :stomp:  the wife say look in the dictionary for sympathy and it's between sh!t and syphilis  :violin:




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Re: open headers made no diff on the strip.
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2008 - 09:49:20 PM »
What did it run?

Tom :jumping:
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Re: open headers made no diff on the strip.
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2008 - 09:52:35 PM »
my car awhile ago didn't run any faster open or shut. Last time i ran open i did 13.68, next outing ill cork the headers with mufflers and see how it does. depends on the car and its exhast flow characteristics/needs
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Re: open headers made no diff on the strip.
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2008 - 10:07:30 PM »
i ran 2.15 to 2.2 60' and 13.84 to 13.90  :horse:

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Re: open headers made no diff on the strip.
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2008 - 10:10:12 PM »
Whats the combo? 60' is a bit high regardless, spinning?
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Re: open headers made no diff on the strip.
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2008 - 10:10:32 PM »
as alot of you know ive been fighting a tuning issue with my car. i had a tranny issue and finally got my hands on a lokar cable and most of my tranny issues disappeared. while i was under my car i noticed that the exhaust was 2.5'' into the mufflers and 2'' out over the rear end so i ran open headers at the track today and absolutely no difference at all [ except now i sound fast ]. this thing just simply does not react with jetting, timing and exhaust. i'm going to check my cam timing this week but i needed to vent  :stomp:  the wife say look in the dictionary for sympathy and it's between sh!t and syphilis  :violin:

open headers is worth 2-3 tenths.... I think if you left your car alone and went bracket racing you would be a millionaire running the same everytime...

hope you get it figured out...

changing too much at one time will run you in circles... start over from the beginning and do one thing at a time ....  :2cents:

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Re: open headers made no diff on the strip.
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2008 - 10:11:58 PM »
Whats the combo? 60' is a bit high regardless, spinning?

I believe he is runnin regular radial tires... which explains the crappy 60 ft... buy some good tires and tune from there... the tires alone you will go faster....

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Re: open headers made no diff on the strip.
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2008 - 10:18:24 PM »
i don't need any other tires, i'm not spinning. when i get this thing turning on the way it should i had better need tires.

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Re: open headers made no diff on the strip.
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2008 - 10:23:21 PM »
just asking again, what is the drivetrain combo?
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Re: open headers made no diff on the strip.
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2008 - 10:42:52 PM »
On a lot of street combos, open headers isn't worth any gain at all as the exhaust is not a significant enough restriction to imped power output. Similarly, mild combos may not react to really fine tuning tweaks like a more sensitive combination of parts will. It also is possible that weather variations can mask minute tuning adjustments as well.

While some dismiss their validity, time spent on a chassis dyno to nail down the tune up can be well worth the money spent. Consider four trips to the track and their combined gas, food, entry fees, and frustration only to go backwards on progress, and you can see why a few hundred bucks spent on the dyno can start to look like a value.

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Re: open headers made no diff on the strip.
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2008 - 11:14:45 PM »
closest dyno to me is 5 hours away.

goody, my combo is 340, ported x heads, 10.25:1, 727 with 2800 stall, 4:11's with 28'' tires.

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Re: open headers made no diff on the strip.
« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2008 - 11:36:12 PM »
closest dyno to me is 5 hours away.

goody, my combo is 340, ported x heads, 10.25:1, 727 with 2800 stall, 4:11's with 28'' tires.

All that looks so good. Bet the cam sucks :bigsmile:  Hope you get it worked out.

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Re: open headers made no diff on the strip.
« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2008 - 11:44:52 PM »
i hope that's all it is. ive talked to crane and a couple of mopar engine builders and they all say that the cam i have should rock but ya never know.

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Re: open headers made no diff on the strip.
« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2008 - 11:49:18 PM »
Well were the heads ported professionally or back yard?  You can hurt a head flow if not done right and slow down

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Re: open headers made no diff on the strip.
« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2008 - 11:49:55 PM »
That is my first impression , when tuning is soft & makes little difference it is usually a bad cam or at least degreed in wrong
Bad port work can kill a combo as well but tuning usually will help at low RPM at least
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