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Re: 440 Build Starts Today!
« Reply #45 on: December 06, 2008 - 01:08:03 AM »
Whats the word on the aluminum 440 source heads?  $900 fully assembled and ready to bolt on.

Yes they are 900.00 but the consensus is to change out the retainers to 10* due to a rash of failures.  Still the best route to go as far as heads go.  The Stealths flow better OTB then Stage VI's.  Also there is a lot of maintance with a 6pk setup,  I would go 4bl setup with a large carb 950+   :2cents:

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Re: 440 Build Starts Today!
« Reply #46 on: January 07, 2009 - 09:31:34 AM »
Hey all,

Just got off the phone with Vic....the short block is done!  :bananasmi  :ylsuper:

Next up, the heads.....He's got some 452's laying around that he will open up a bit and redo the valves, retainers, and springs.  We're going with a slightly larger valve (2.14/181) to give it a little more umph than stock.  Once that's done, then we'll move to cam, lifters and push rods.....taking suggestions on a cam please.....I LOVE the sound of a mild to big cam....nothing like the "chug, glug" noise coming out of the hood.....please help me with this because I am real ignorant when it comes to cams and their setups.

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Re: 440 Build Starts Today!
« Reply #47 on: January 07, 2009 - 09:42:31 AM »
Robert, Lunati Voodoo's are hard to beat.

http://www.lunaticams.com/ProductGroup.aspx?id=297&cid=88
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Re: 440 Build Starts Today!
« Reply #48 on: January 07, 2009 - 09:49:17 AM »
Advertised Duration (Int/Exh): 250/256
Duration @ .050 (Int/Exh): 208/213
Gross Valve Lift (Int/Exh): .454/.454
LSA/ICL: 112/108
Valve Lash (Int/Exh): Hyd/Hyd
RPM Range: idle-5000


 :clueless:  :clueless:  :clueless:  what the heck are all those numbers and more importantly WHAT DO THEY MEAN?   :dunno:
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Re: 440 Build Starts Today!
« Reply #49 on: January 07, 2009 - 10:05:22 AM »
Here is ALOT of good info Robert,read up!  ;)
http://www.lunaticams.com/Tech/Default.aspx

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Re: 440 Build Starts Today!
« Reply #50 on: January 07, 2009 - 10:43:16 AM »
http://www.lunaticams.com/Product.aspx?id=1580&gid=287

http://www.lunaticams.com/Product.aspx?id=1581&gid=287

There are the two cams I would look at if this were my engine.  Hey guys chime in as I dont think he is getting the most ouf of his application.

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Re: 440 Build Starts Today!
« Reply #51 on: January 07, 2009 - 11:02:56 AM »
I use the older UltraDyne grinds available through Lunati , TF series lobs with around 250* @ .o50 & .580 lift for street engines running up to 6000 Rpm

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Re: 440 Build Starts Today!
« Reply #52 on: January 07, 2009 - 12:28:43 PM »
Hey guys chime in as I dont think he is getting the most ouf of his application.

Yes, please....because now that the short block is done, I want to get the best setup/match for the top end items.  I'll be running a 6-pack setup for sure, 452 heads, but outside of that, I don't have anything else "set" in stone.  I see on Lunati's website that they recommend using correct valves, springs, etc. to match the cam....is that just a sales pitch to get you to buy their items or is it really recommended?  If so, I should probably pick out a cam with the builder so he knows what set of hardware to get for the heads, no?  :dunno:
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Re: 440 Build Starts Today!
« Reply #53 on: January 07, 2009 - 05:05:46 PM »
I would go with the lifters they recommend for sure as far as valve and retainers and springs I will defult to some of the more detail savy guys here.

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Re: 440 Build Starts Today!
« Reply #54 on: January 07, 2009 - 06:17:41 PM »
I see on Lunati's website that they recommend using correct valves, springs, etc. to match the cam....is that just a sales pitch to get you to buy their items or is it really recommended? 
No sales pitch,springs need to match the cam profile.
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Re: 440 Build Starts Today!
« Reply #55 on: January 07, 2009 - 10:04:28 PM »
If your wallet would afford it, I'd go with a hydraulic roller cam!! :woo: :woo:




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Re: 440 Build Starts Today!
« Reply #56 on: January 08, 2009 - 01:30:20 AM »
Do not use Lunatis solid lifters if you are going flat tappet , they are stupid heavy , the hollow Mopar ones are better

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Re: 440 Build Starts Today!
« Reply #57 on: January 09, 2009 - 06:12:30 PM »
Went down to see Vic again today....he had a spacer for my 360, so we put it in to help with the vapor lock and boy did it work well....but I also got to see my motor since the rotating assembly went in....Here's some pics, sorry the one is so fuzzy, but it was taken with my phone camera.  They just got a new balancer when my assembly arrived, so they were balancing my stuff and were having so much fun with the new machine that they didn't realize how GOOD they balanced my parts.....I guess .2 on the crank is good enough for Pro-stock or Nascar, according to the balancer sheet....mine came out .07 and .05...  :woo:  He'll give me the print out once the motor is all done, but to say they least, I'm very happy.   :bigsmile:
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Re: 440 Build Starts Today!
« Reply #58 on: January 09, 2009 - 06:26:04 PM »
good luck with it! however i think that six pack you want will be quite a handful to keep in tune! lol
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Re: 440 Build Starts Today!
« Reply #59 on: January 09, 2009 - 09:13:53 PM »
I disagree once set a 6 pack will nt cause problems if it is set correctly anyway

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