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Offline Carlwalski

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Slap-Stik Shifting Style?
« on: March 16, 2004 - 10:40:48 PM »

OK, I've asked this before and was hopeing someone can tell me EXACTLY how a 1970 slap-stik shifter works?

I've heard it either pops back by itself or you have to nudge it back manually?

Thats all I need to know, if you have to nudge it how far back? Does it click so you don't shift into 1st?
If it pops back by itself, how far and can you notice it pop back?

Confusing but simple........ ::)

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NZ
« Last Edit: March 16, 2004 - 10:42:16 PM by NZ 440RT »
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Re:Slap-Stik Shifting Style?
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2004 - 11:25:46 PM »
Push the button and bring it back to first gear all the
way to the bottom
Punch the gas pedal, light the tires and go
at the moment the tach reads about 5900 rpm
slap the shifter forward
the shifter will go into 2nd gear only and make a rachet
click noise.  (as if you could here it over the 440)
The weight of the car will dig in and bite with little tire
spin if the chassis is set up correctly
Slap the shifter up again at 5800 into 3rd and watch the
rice grill in your rear view mirror
When the shifter is set up it will not go into neutral by
mistake and you have the satisfaction of knowing that
your shifter is as good as some of the best race only
shifters in the world 8)

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Re:Slap-Stik Shifting Style?
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2004 - 11:33:51 PM »
One other thing

The nudging that your talking about happens when the
the shifter starts getting old.
A good re-greasing and shifter rods check (4 looseness)
will tune the dude up

to get it back into reverse or park of course you push
the button again and push it forward  to the top.
« Last Edit: March 16, 2004 - 11:35:15 PM by 360cuda »

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Re:Slap-Stik Shifting Style?
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2004 - 11:34:21 PM »
When the linkage is properly adjusted after shifting gears you only have to release pressure for an instant & the shifter will move back slightly dropping the detent so you can shift again  8)

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Re:Slap-Stik Shifting Style?
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2004 - 12:49:33 AM »
Yehaaaaaaa thats excellent info thanks guys I can't wait!!  :D

Brought a console + Brackets and the slap-stik shifter assembly yesterday form Tonysparts, should be here next week!
So I'll get it restored professionally and cleaned up, greased etc and have that bad boy ready to "slap."

Thanks guys.  ;)
« Last Edit: March 17, 2004 - 12:50:30 AM by NZ 440RT »
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Re:Slap-Stik Shifting Style?
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2004 - 07:46:06 AM »

......at the moment the tach reads about 5900 rpm
slap the shifter forward
the shifter will go into 2nd.......
Slap the shifter up again at 5800 into 3rd......

Is that what you shift at?
Would that be hurting the trans and engine or no problems!  ;) 8)
Would that be good shift points for 3:55 gears?
I'm asking this because I don't think I've ever gone that high up the rpms! lol!!! I'm use to when the "lines" come on the rpm counter I think red line! but I had a closer look and the red lines about 6,500rpm so I guess those shift points are pretty bang on.
When shifting with that kind of load at those rpms the shift I imagine would be crisp and quick from the 727?  :D

Cheers,
NZ

« Last Edit: March 17, 2004 - 07:47:26 AM by NZ 440RT »
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Re:Slap-Stik Shifting Style?
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2004 - 07:31:38 PM »
It works with my mild 360/904 bracket car

If you aim for 5900 rpm the tach will still go to about
6100 or so before the transmission shifts
My 360 runs on regular gas "MTBE additive and all"
In the traps it's at about 6200 rpm and it runs 12:35 or
:40 like clockwork, 106MPH.

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Re:Slap-Stik Shifting Style?
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2004 - 07:35:48 PM »
Have you ever seen what the car shifts at left in auto?  ???

I was told not to over rev as this cause stress on the engine and you don't get any hp gain.  :-[
I'll probably work out what shifts best when my car gets back but I'll probably shift 5,800 and hit 6.
It's been about 8 months since I've driven it so I've kind of forgotten how quick these things pull, espeacially past mid rpms!
I remember second was $%#%&@ quick and that was with 3bbl carb one wasn't pumping properly and the car non-tuned with 20 years with TLC problems!
I feel I'm going to have to get use to the torque and power when I get this puppy back.  ;D

« Last Edit: March 17, 2004 - 07:37:33 PM by NZ 440RT »
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Re:Slap-Stik Shifting Style?
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2004 - 07:54:08 PM »
 When I put my Six Pack on I ended up puting a rev limiter on my engine because second was so fast.
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Re:Slap-Stik Shifting Style?
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2004 - 08:08:28 PM »
Just pulls and pulls aye!  :D I don't think I got very high up the rpms, I was to busy just, well, holding on!! lol!!  8)

Once my car comes back I'll have to get used to it, I've never had any crashes so I'll be fine. Just got to get slowly use to it until it becomes one with me then I'll experiment.
I'd be PO if I crashed trying to be a smart arse, money and months of resto down the drain, it's insured but still, what a waste.

Can't wait!! Yehaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa  8) :D
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Re:Slap-Stik Shifting Style?
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2004 - 08:20:17 PM »
 Hey NZ when Ipull the car out in the spring I normally have to give the shifter mechanism a shot of WD before I go out chrpin tire :o
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Re:Slap-Stik Shifting Style?
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2004 - 08:43:06 PM »
Cool, but winter here isn'te, sunny still just the wind is a little cooler.  8) No snow or anything like that.  :D

360: Your saying the car should bit when shifting into D?
How bad is the bite and isn't that slowing the car down, or does it "push" the car so-to-speak.  ???

I heard and seen that people say that.
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Re:Slap-Stik Shifting Style?
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2004 - 12:05:29 AM »
While experimenting on 10 inch slicks I got out of shape
a couple of times shifting into 2nd but only a little
wobble into 3rd.(most of that is from too low on rear tire
 air pressure)

The bite feeling is a comepletey different animal on
slicks
At the dry hop after a short burnout you feel yourself
pressed into the seat and sometimes at the launch you
can loose track of the horizon as the dr side tire lifts off
the ground. The first gear shift is so quick if you think
about it, it's already too late so you learn to shift by
the sound more then the tach.
You really can't compare the feel of any street car to
even a slow bracket car like mine.
A 1:58 sixty foot time will rock your world 8) 8)

the TEN second car was another matter altogether ;)


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Re:Slap-Stik Shifting Style?
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2004 - 12:13:44 AM »
Quote
Have you ever seen what the car shifts at left in auto?  


My bracket car has the full reverse pattern manual valve
body in the transmission

It won't shift unless I shift it and there is no chance of
throwing it in reverse because third gear is on the
bottom. High performance and very safe.

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Re:Slap-Stik Shifting Style?
« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2004 - 12:59:10 AM »

Thanks 360 you da man.  ;)

I'll just go about driving it for the first time very easilly, I won't floor it until I get use to it. I'll keeping going further and further until it's at it's peak rpm or where ever I want to shift to.

This slap-stik shifter sounds like a work of art!!  :D

Were lucky in the e-bodies having both Manual and Auto transmissions that are both disrable.  8)

4-speed and Slap-stik!!! Bring it on phord and chivis!!   >:(


I bet your ten second car would open up hard, so what your saying is my car will only bite a little if any with 245/60/15x8 street tires?



I'm hopeing my car will be around 380hp - 415hp maybe more but not looking for more, just a bonus.  :)



« Last Edit: March 18, 2004 - 01:01:03 AM by NZ 440RT »
1970 Dodge Challenger R/T
White, License Plate, 0A-5599
540ci Aluminium Hemi, F.A.S.T EFI
TF-727 Gear Vendor OD, Dana 60