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    Offline pokey427

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    5-spd
    « on: June 10, 2008 - 01:00:01 PM »
    I'm installing a Keisler 5-spd in my 383 '70 r/t.  Curious if anyone with this transmission can comment on performance, problems, regrets, etc.  My motor is essentially stock with .030 bore and a slightly agressive cam.  Hoping to get good driveability (low rpms and improved mileage), but still have better than stock performance. Thanks for your input.
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    Offline Robb

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    Re: 5-spd
    « Reply #1 on: June 10, 2008 - 05:27:11 PM »
    might try a search on Kiesler on this board and youll see quite a bit.



    for me it was among the best mods I have spent money on.   I would do it again.    (I installed the Trans completely by myself, no helpers)

    I had 3.55 gears when the car was an automatic, but I had better results with 3.23 gears with the Tremec.   
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    Offline JeffAARy

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    Re: 5-spd
    « Reply #2 on: June 10, 2008 - 05:33:44 PM »
    Sorry to hijack the thread, but I was going to make another thread and this can be answered here.  Where did you guys mount the clutch master cylinder?
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    Offline Robb

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    Re: 5-spd
    « Reply #3 on: June 10, 2008 - 08:58:06 PM »
    right next to the Brake master cylinder
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    70 Challenger SE  (440 SIX PACK / Keisler 5 speed, R/T SE replication)       68 Sport Satellite Convertible 383 Super Commando / 727  Survivor

    2002 Trans AM WS6 convertible:  DD
    1999 4Runner 4x4:  lifted-locked-armored  expedition vehicle
    1990 Jeep XJ 4x4:  Front Dana 60, GM-14bolt rear, 3 link, 4link, 5.38 detroits, beadlocked 40's, stretched to 110" wb  Rock Crawler

    Offline thedodgeboys

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    Re: 5-spd
    « Reply #4 on: June 10, 2008 - 09:57:45 PM »
    Ok I need to see  :picture: please  :hyper:
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    Offline Red R/T

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    Re: 5-spd
    « Reply #5 on: June 10, 2008 - 10:42:25 PM »
    here ya go, i love the 5 speed.  440 with mild cam and 4:10 cogs, love it!
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    Offline IMNCARN82

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    Re: 5-spd
    « Reply #6 on: June 11, 2008 - 03:02:11 AM »
    I've only had mine a short time.With 3:91's it was the best upgrade I could have done.Now I can take it on the freeway.No problems.Beefy speedo cable.Good fit.Easy.There is almost no linkage compared to the A833.I am very pleased with it's performance.The new bellhousing from Classic Mopar 5 speed made it easy.The only thing I don't like is in 1st and 3rd the lever is far forward.But I'm not in there to be comfy.A small adapter plate mayby. I really like it though.Having a blast tearing it up the canyons!! :woo:
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    Offline Aussie Challenger

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    Re: 5-spd
    « Reply #7 on: June 11, 2008 - 05:49:19 AM »
      The Kiesler conversion is a good one, check their site and Brad on themopardude.com has a pic of how it is done.
      The conversions I have seen a very neat and look like factory, gives you a chance to run lower rear end gears but still have a good highway speed.   :2thumbs:
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    Offline rusty dodge

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    Re: 5-spd
    « Reply #8 on: June 13, 2008 - 07:58:35 PM »
    If putting these 5spd kits in place of an automatic, does something need to be added to the crankshaft end? Pilot Bushing or something called like that?
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    Offline Aussie Challenger

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    Re: 5-spd
    « Reply #9 on: June 14, 2008 - 12:26:39 AM »
      Some cranks are drilled out and all you have to do is install a bush into it. If the crank is not drilled you will have to drill out a clearance hole, slightly larger than the snout of the gearbox input shaft and deep enough to take the snout. Go to your friendly spare parts dealer and buy a spigot bearing for a Dakota, it is a bearing that centralises on the back of the crank.
      Hope this helps.   :cheers:
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    Offline DougsR/T

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    Re: 5-spd
    « Reply #10 on: June 16, 2008 - 09:26:02 PM »
    We installed the Keisler 5 speed late last summer, and it was a great package, the people at Keisler are great to work with (Talk to Gene) The install went very smooth and I would do it again. The biggest help that I can give you is to read the directions and follow them to the "T". This was the best upgrade to our challenger we have ever made.
    Doug :burnout:
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    Offline The Cuda Guy

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    Re: 5-spd
    « Reply #11 on: June 17, 2008 - 04:43:10 AM »
    Can someone who has done this install by them self from Auto to 5sp PM me and let me know what it costed total.  I think this would be somthing I would like to do.  Thanks.

    Don
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    Re: 5-spd
    « Reply #12 on: June 17, 2008 - 08:55:24 AM »
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    Offline Scatterbrain

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    Re: 5-spd
    « Reply #13 on: June 17, 2008 - 11:14:32 AM »
    I put a Richmond 6-speed in mine.  I got mine used from a former member here.  Total cost ended up being almost 4k and I already had a 4 speed car.  That included the trans, the beefier crossmember, the drive shaft, clutch, pressure plate and throw out bearing, new tranny hump and installation (had a local shop put it in).
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    Offline Chryco Psycho

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    Re: 5-spd
    « Reply #14 on: June 17, 2008 - 11:50:22 AM »
    having done 3 installs so far they are not my favorite swap , we have had problems with Ks machine work to modify them [constant leaks] the last one dropped the rear of the engine down to far so the headers now sit too low even with the tunnel clearanced , I will stay with the A833OD until I find a better solution , I have not tried the Richmond swap but I bet it is a better deal , if you still want the Tremec there are other companies that are better to deal with like Classic . I have had more guys tell me about breaking second gfear in the Mustang versions , how are they going to stand up behind a Mopar that makes torque
    « Last Edit: June 17, 2008 - 11:56:18 AM by Chryco Psycho »
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