I have no problem with intelligent debate. But both of those videos are not about intelligent debate; they're about demonizing the "other" side. Those who engage in such inflammatory commentary or passing it along should realize that it's their own friends and neighbors (and in some cases, family) that they're throwing bombs at.
If someone wants to say to me: "I think that the war in Iraq was and is a good idea because A, B, C, D...I'm willing to listen courteously and debate the issue. But when someone says that I'm unpatriotic or un-American or don't support our troops (thank you Don and others) because I think the war was a poor choice without offering reasons for support or listening to my thoughts about a subject, that makes my blood boil.
Several of the members of this board have been very supportive of my project. I'm aware that we may have opposing views on several political issues, but it doesn't keep us from being friends on this board and (if we ever meet) in real life. I'm sure we'd share some beers and a couple of good laughs and check out each others cars. The fact that we may have opposing political viewpoints would be irrelevant. That's why I think that such threads are inappropriate to this board.
