XV motorsport electric windows - having major problems (pics added)

[Katfish]

I think you got lucky.  Most people, when pressed, admit they slam down.  When I tried them in my car they actually hit the down stop so hard they broke the rubber stop.

People chimed in after I mentioned it, just wish I had the heads up before I wasted my time.

[71chally416]

We're stuck with what's out there. They either go down to quick or don't fit right 

[miketyler]

My EL's did exactly that when I bolted them in and put power to them the first time. By adjusting the tracks at the bottom of the door I got the travel speeds about equal. It is a trade off though as you have to back them away from window stripping.

As a result, they don't rest as hard against the seals as they did previous but they don't whistle or leak. I also found that waxing the window and using some dry silicone spray on the seals reduced friction and increased up the up travel speed.

Even with all this, am happy with the EL product and it STILL beats a hand crank.

 

[71chally416]

Slowing the speed that they go down could just be a matter of installing a few electrical components in line with the window down hot wire. Diodes will cut the voltage .06 each or you could limit the current with a resistor or two. Ohm's law. Current = Voltage/Resistance. A couple of $$ at Radio Shack. I think that would be better than a spring.

[bb71challenger]

Well if a simple spring will slow the descent and help the ascent then its a no brainer. Much rather have a mechanical aid in there instead of electrical parts like resistors and extra wiring.

[Katfish]

Well if a simple spring will slow the descent and help the ascent then its a no brainer. Much rather have a mechanical aid in there instead of electrical parts like resistors and extra wiring.

I tend to agree, if you limit the voltage/current to reduce the down speed, you will also be reducing the up speed.  Seems like the problem will remain, down speed might be slower, but the up speed will also be slower (already a problem).  The difference between the 2 won't change.

[71chally416]

If I remember right my switches had seperate teminals for up and down, so you just use the resistor on the down side.

[Katfish]

Well, if that's the case, it might be a good solution.  I would love to see something work.

[bb71challenger]

I am pretty sure what 416 is suggesting will work. I just would try to find the most simple solution.

[71chally416]

I promise to research this and let you guys know what I find. I can wire a potentiometer to the wire and see what value of resistance it needs to equal out the up/down speed. At least on the EL window motor.

[Confederate Cuda]

Hey guys,
Just trying to get my post back on track. I spoke with the guys at XV and they suggested that I try to raise my rear track about 2 inches. Here is a picture of the rear track on my car. Is this about the same position on other Cudas and Challengers?? I know there is adjustment for this bracket but that is nowhere near enough movement so I thought I would take the bracket off the car and see if I could remove the track and reweld it higher but would like to see some other factory cars first especially if anyone has a factory power window car.

Thanks
Mark

[Katfish]

That doesn't sound right.  Are you talking about the vertical track (up & down) ?  I don't think I would be cutting and extending it?

[Chryco Psycho]

try just flipping the track 180 * first

[conv340]

I decided I had better fit my window regulator and see what was happening "before I get it painted" It's a real bummer that they didn't take a little more time to test fit it in all the applications.
I can only speak for 1970 Cudas and Challengers But the track in question seems to be the same on all of my cars. So XV should have had to fix it on there cars also? 
The problem.
As you mentioned There are two sets of mounting holes in the door for the regulator. It looks for all the world like they did the mock up in the lower holes then final motor fitting in the upper holes. So how did anybody ever get them to work?
With the regulator in the upper holes the guide ( at the back of the door) is to low making the window track sit at an angle. You can't use the lower holes because the motor and mound would be out the bottom of the door!    If you mount every thing but the rear guide and line up the window. The slide sits exactly 2.75 higher then the track . ( The same distance as the two sets mounting holes are apart.) I held the rear mount in the new location and applied power to the motor. The good news is the regulator has more then enough room to allow the window to go full up and down still. 
So the fix isn't to bad, pop the spot welds on the track and move the slide up. 2.75" and weld it back on. the good news is you don't have to modify your door!
The real question is why XV hasn't stepped up and made a fix or even acknowledged the problem?   
Hers some pics to help make sense of my idea. 
pic 2 shows the arm in its new position ( with the window aligned )
pic 3 shows the track ( flipped around so you can see the guide ) as it is from the factory.